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Opositive Oct 11, 2010 11:56 am


Originally Posted by RSSrsvp (Post 14923151)
You are 100% correct and I am moving this discussion to the TS/S forum.

RSSrsvp - Moderator

Hey RSSrsvp,

Thanks for the effort, but:


Originally Posted by VH-RMD
where on earth did this ill informed rubbish come from?


Originally Posted by 4444
after reading through this thread, and after all this time, i cannot believe some people are still ignorant enough to believe that tsa serves any purpose...


Originally Posted by mikemey
We are Americans, subected to the rights and responsibilities of the US Constitution. Which means we do not have to tolerate out of control government agencies that talk a tough game but have done NOTHING to improve airport securtity while spending our tax money.

Do you understand now why people might not want to have their threads started in or moved to this forum?

Sometimes the ill-informed sheep that wander through airports just like to have nice, polite conversations while wallowing in our ignorant bliss. As much as we love Flytalk and appreciate your efforts, hijacking us over to deal with these folks is sometimes just a little too rude.

Oh Well,

Cheers,
OPos.

N965VJ Oct 11, 2010 11:59 am


Originally Posted by Opositive (Post 14924914)
Hey RSSrsvp,

Thanks for the effort, but:


Do you understand now why people might not want to have their threads started in or moved to this forum?

Discussion of Moderator actions is a TOS violation. @:-)

realjd Oct 11, 2010 1:22 pm

I saw screeners in MLB one day last year doing this to any visible liquids carried onto the plane. I asked them about it between boarding zones and they said they were doing it primarily to try out the new liquid screening test. They said TSA eventually wants to allow liquids through the checkpoint again, so they've been trying it out at gate checks to make sure the liquid screening test works as expected and is simple enough for TSO' to use. They said they didn't expect to find anything, and weren't concerned with letting liquids not visible inside bags through untested.

Keep in mind, this info came from small-town TSO's, but it seemed like a reasonable explanation to me.

InkUnderNails Oct 11, 2010 1:33 pm


Originally Posted by realjd (Post 14925564)
...

Keep in mind, this info came from small-town TSO's, but it seemed like a reasonable explanation to me.

Seeing the acronym TSO and the phrase "reasonable explanation" in the same sentence including a directly referencing connection caused my brain to shut down for a moment. :p

FriendlySkies Oct 11, 2010 1:39 pm


Originally Posted by InkUnderNails (Post 14925644)
Seeing the acronym TSO and the phrase "reasonable explanation" in the same sentence including a directly referencing connection caused my brain to shut down for a moment. :p

haha :D

I've seen the screening clerks try and wave the magic strip over drinks at various airport mostly starting in January. While they have not selected me, I think I would just ignore them. Where's the threat, especially if the beverage I purchased was made air side? :rolleyes:

Opositive Oct 11, 2010 2:48 pm


Originally Posted by N965VJ (Post 14924935)
Discussion of Moderator actions is a TOS violation. @:-)

That comment was more of a discussion on the infamous etiquette shown in this forum than on a moderator activity.

I think RSS knows what I meant.

Cheers,
OPos.

N965VJ Oct 11, 2010 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by Opositive (Post 14926188)
That comment was more of a discussion on the infamous etiquette shown in this forum than on a moderator activity.

If you see a post that violates the TOS, use the RPB button. @:-)

PhoenixRev Oct 11, 2010 4:17 pm


Originally Posted by Opositive (Post 14926188)
That comment was more of a discussion on the infamous etiquette shown in this forum than on a moderator activity.

You'll have to forgive me, but when the subject of a government actor feeling up an 87-year-old grandmother or looking at nude scans of a 5-year-old boy in the name of "security," etiquette is probably not on my front burner.

Boggie Dog Oct 11, 2010 5:12 pm


Originally Posted by realjd (Post 14925564)
I saw screeners in MLB one day last year doing this to any visible liquids carried onto the plane. I asked them about it between boarding zones and they said they were doing it primarily to try out the new liquid screening test. They said TSA eventually wants to allow liquids through the checkpoint again, so they've been trying it out at gate checks to make sure the liquid screening test works as expected

and is simple enough for TSO' to use.
They said they didn't expect to find anything, and weren't concerned with letting liquids not visible inside bags through untested.

Keep in mind, this info came from small-town TSO's, but it seemed like a reasonable explanation to me.

Now that is a real challenge.

N830MH Oct 11, 2010 5:48 pm


Originally Posted by RSSrsvp (Post 14923151)
You are 100% correct and I am moving this discussion to the TS/S forum.

RSSrsvp - Moderator

Thanks for your helps! :)

txrus Oct 11, 2010 6:23 pm


Originally Posted by Sez_Who (Post 14920392)
The TSO's at MCO act as if they were trained as stormtroopers. BTW, recent articles have suggested the MCO FAM's are about the same. I think the problem at MCO is management. The employees get this attitude from their bosses and for whatever reason, arrogance seems to be encouraged.

After having had problems @ 2 different airports in the past week, including MCO, involving either no-show screeners resulting in a check-point not opening on time & the other the always fun 'why should I have to change my gloves' debate, I've stopped wasting my time w/the 'Talk to TSA' nonesense & am going straight to the airport management. In both cases I've received responses back in 24 hrs, the first resulted in multiple responses from the airport & then an additional direct response from the 'Regional TSA Quality Manager'. Don't know if anything concrete will come of either, but at least I know the local TSA managers are having to answer to someone, albeit the airport, on my behalf. This is more than ever happens w/the Talk to TSA nonesense which seems to be nothing more than an electronic circular filing cabinet...

N830MH Oct 11, 2010 9:10 pm


Originally Posted by Opositive (Post 14926188)
That comment was more of a discussion on the infamous etiquette shown in this forum than on a moderator activity.

I think RSS knows what I meant.

Cheers,
OPos.

Folks, Lets moderations is doing their jobs and you don't have need to asks DL moderators to moved the thread.

4444 Oct 12, 2010 6:05 am


Originally Posted by Opositive (Post 14926188)
That comment was more of a discussion on the infamous etiquette shown in this forum than on a moderator activity.

I think RSS knows what I meant.

Cheers,
OPos.

came across as an attack on people's opinions just because they seem a little harsh or you dont agree with them. i'll stand by my post. people are ignorant if they think the tsa serves any useful purpose. cheers...

brandinius2 Oct 12, 2010 6:24 am

OK, so if this happens during my next airport visit, does anyone know if you can opt out?

Seriously, can you just say, "I opt out" and ask them to go bother someone else?

Would that end in a body cavity search or LEO invervention?

Opositive Oct 12, 2010 6:42 am


Originally Posted by 4444 (Post 14929973)
came across as an attack on people's opinions just because they seem a little harsh or you dont agree with them. i'll stand by my post. people are ignorant if they think the tsa serves any useful purpose. cheers...

Oh. I'm terribly sorry.

It was meant to come across as an attack on people who think that anyone who disagrees with them is ignorant, ill-informed, or un-American just because they hold a different opinion.

My bad. I'll make the target of my rant more clear next time.

Thanks!
OPos.


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