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I think the posts should be belongings to TSS forums and not real specific time on DL forums.
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I was at MCO over Labor Day, and I did see something really wierd with the trams. It's a little hard to explain, but, people would exit the tram landside, then they wouldn't allow ANYONE to board until another TSA official did a sort of "sweep" thru the tram, as though they were looking for something! They had ropes on poles - kind of like in a bank - keeping people off til they were finished with their visual sweep, then they opened them up. What's that all about?!?! <shhhh - maybe it's top secret - along with the coffee & strip routine!>[/QUOTE]
This isn't new. They've been doing this for some time now. Not sure what the purpose is. |
Originally Posted by brad9696
(Post 14922290)
This isn't new. They've been doing this for some time now. Not sure what the purpose is.
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Couple of comments:
1. The reason for plane-side checks is to prevent the very real possibility that something is smuggled into the sterile area hidden in a product shipment. There's a balance that has to be taken between security and having those nice little shops and restaurants for us air side. It's pretty well expected that a security breach will be attempted somewhere, sometime, by somebody passing contraband via food or merchandise. You just can't effectively screen all of that stuff. The lowered security is the price we pay for convenience. 2. The little strips are most likely sensitive to nitrogen compounds. They're probably acting on a tip about liquid explosives coming in via a food vendor. 3. I'm not surprised it's MCO. That's been a hot spot for a while now. Underground buzz is that it's BA's turn on the terror wheel and that MCO will be the source. Given that that's the buzz, it probably means that it'll happen to somebody and somewhere else, but that's still the buzz. Luck, OPos. |
Originally Posted by drat19
(Post 14920331)
The TSA gate cops were on duty in MEM this morning for my flight from MEM-MSP. Instead of positioning themselves at the doorway to the ramp, they were stationed INSIDE the ramp just before entry to the plane. I was my usual gate-louse self and was first to board, and while I was sweating it somewhat I remembered that they're on to this in many places and wait until the 3rd/5th/10th person now. I was able to walk on past, no stop, no problem.
Besides sharing everyone else's complaint that this is all for show and they should've gotten it right the first time at the checkpoint, like most people my biggest problem with this is that the delay in searching my bag might cost me my gate-louse-earned preferred space in the overhead storage. Phooey on that. :mad: I remember a smart one at DTW once - he's ask you to pick a number between 1 and 5 as you approached and if you picked the number he had in mind then you were 'it' - now that's actually somewhat randomized. |
Originally Posted by N830MH
(Post 14922211)
I think the posts should be belongings to TSS forums and not real specific time on DL forums.
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where on earth did this ill informed rubbish come from?
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Originally Posted by keithandmissy
(Post 14921087)
This is something we have to get used to. Security in the US is becoming more and more like the UK. At LHR they do many "random" checks of people boarding flights. When it's a 777 that can make boarding take quite a while if you get stopped.
Also, in the UK the sweeps (like on the trams at MCO) are usually to check to see if anyone left anything on board (either on a ledge above your head or under a seat, etc). In the UK they did this on the London Eye and I saw periodic sweeps by the police at tube stations. Basically any sort of transportation or attraction used by the public in London has massive security and random checks and sweeps. Not to mention your every move is videotaped in public areas. In my opinion, this is the way of the future in this country, it's just a matter of time (we're not quite there yet). We are Americans, subected to the rights and responsibilities of the US Constitution. Which means we do not have to tolerate out of control government agencies that talk a tough game but have done NOTHING to improve airport securtity while spending our tax money. Now they want to virtually strip search EVERY American (and foreigners too) in order to fly. And you're OK with this? Read what has been posted here. It will open your eyes. |
Originally Posted by Opositive
(Post 14922374)
Couple of comments:
1. The reason for plane-side checks is to prevent the very real possibility that something is smuggled into the sterile area hidden in a product shipment. There's a balance that has to be taken between security and having those nice little shops and restaurants for us air side. It's pretty well expected that a security breach will be attempted somewhere, sometime, by somebody passing contraband via food or merchandise. You just can't effectively screen all of that stuff. The lowered security is the price we pay for convenience. 2. The little strips are most likely sensitive to nitrogen compounds. They're probably acting on a tip about liquid explosives coming in via a food vendor. 3. I'm not surprised it's MCO. That's been a hot spot for a while now. Underground buzz is that it's BA's turn on the terror wheel and that MCO will be the source. Given that that's the buzz, it probably means that it'll happen to somebody and somewhere else, but that's still the buzz. Luck, OPos. I have no problems with heightened security if it hinders another terrorist attack. The threat won't stop me going about my daily business, but if these measures (real or perceived) act as a deterrent then I'm for them - inconvenient or not. |
Originally Posted by Ressie
(Post 14923421)
I have no problems with heightened security if it hinders another terrorist attack. The threat won't stop me going about my daily business, but if these measures (real or perceived) act as a deterrent then I'm for them - inconvenient or not. |
Originally Posted by VH-RMD
(Post 14923445)
now, just who do you think they act as a deterrent for?
And before you think I am a "sheep", I am not. I also take the warnings with a pince of salt, and I am certain that certain politicians have enough to gain with the terror warnings - however I am also certain that there are enough radicals out there who would quite happily blow up aircraft in the name of whatever cause they wish to suggest they are supporting. There are certainly enough nutters out there... |
Originally Posted by VH-RMD
(Post 14923200)
where on earth did this ill informed rubbish come from?
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Originally Posted by Ressie
(Post 14923496)
Well obviously terrorists. If this wasn't the case, don't you think that we would be seeing a much higher incidence of terrorist attacks on airplanes etc.?
And before you think I am a "sheep", I am not. I also take the warnings with a pince of salt, and I am certain that certain politicians have enough to gain with the terror warnings - however I am also certain that there are enough radicals out there who would quite happily blow up aircraft in the name of whatever cause they wish to suggest they are supporting. There are certainly enough nutters out there... yes, and no... |
after reading through this thread, and after all this time, i cannot believe some people are still ignorant enough to believe that tsa serves any purpose...
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Originally Posted by keithandmissy
(Post 14921856)
I don't know if we can make a blanket statement regarding security. How would you know that they only ever find dirty clothes in every single instance? They may coverup any finds to protect the tourism and business travel industries.
Originally Posted by Ressie
(Post 14923496)
Well obviously terrorists. If this wasn't the case, don't you think that we would be seeing a much higher incidence of terrorist attacks on airplanes etc.?
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Originally Posted by WillieBluffU
(Post 14920092)
I think the TSA should take an idea from Delta and have some frequent flyers do the TSA jobs for a day.
Originally Posted by davetravels
(Post 14919669)
While many FT'ers speak very lowly of TSA "stuff", and it certainly is a "rubber stamp" type of operation, I feel they at least are much better than the bare minimum wage x-ray'ers from years ago who most of the time looked like they were falling asleep while watching the screen!
As for screening clerks falling asleep in the airport: http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...jgy5wmz84f.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...h83jd84jf9.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...73jd94la7d.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...jd74hd62bs.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...4hs63vcmd4.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...94hf73bd73.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...03bd84hd89.jpg http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...7/a2bdbe7b.jpg |
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