Two Forms of ID Required
#31
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I know people have places to go and just want to get out of there, but I'd like to think someone would at least raise some kind of objection, mild or otherwise. I would have, but I acknowledge that I'm in a better position than most to do so - my time is my own and I will not be bullied, intimidated or mistreated by screeners.
Did this get asked on PV ? I never go there, but I'd be interested in how BB squirms out of answering.
#32
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But I wouldn't hold your breath.
We are all still waiting to hear about the mandatory WBI screening at ELP.
#33
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Simple solution.. do not produce a second ID at MCO. If everybody did this, it will screw them up. With around 40,000 departing passengers a day, it will bring the security screening to a complete halt. Of course, make sure you allow plenty of time...
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Forced WBI screening reported at ESP has not been addressed yet plus other recent reports of TSA civil rights abuses.
I suggest when TSA goes silent on reports of abuse then "guilty as charged" is the appropriate response.
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BOHICA
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#37
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I find this story a little confusing. What were people using as a second ID?
I don't think most people have two forms of ID; most folks just have a driver's license (or state ID). Some people might have a passport or passport card, but lots of folks don't have one or don't carry it unless they are traveling internationally. Military personnel would have military ID, but that's a pretty small minority.
International visitors to the US would be carrying a passport, of course, but any other ID they'd be carrying would presumably be from their home country. In most cases that wouldn't be in English and might not even include any text that could even be compared to the name on an English language boarding pass (a Japanese or Russian ID, for example).
I don't think most people have two forms of ID; most folks just have a driver's license (or state ID). Some people might have a passport or passport card, but lots of folks don't have one or don't carry it unless they are traveling internationally. Military personnel would have military ID, but that's a pretty small minority.
International visitors to the US would be carrying a passport, of course, but any other ID they'd be carrying would presumably be from their home country. In most cases that wouldn't be in English and might not even include any text that could even be compared to the name on an English language boarding pass (a Japanese or Russian ID, for example).
Last edited by neko; Aug 10, 2010 at 1:47 pm
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Costco is losing its clout

My local supervisor of elections must be following the TSA ID goings on. In the sample ballot for the upcoming primary it says "Buyers Club cards. . . are no longer valid forms of identification for voting."
#39
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This actually happened to me at LGA this year.
I showed Brainiac my Illinois DL. Now this license is almost eight years old (sticker renewal) and is very worn. I have had absolutely no problems at any other airports using it (save a few comments on how old or worn it looks).
Brainiac uses his super-secret blue light on it and then asks me for additional ID. I refuse. He can't believe that I don't have any other ID. So he writes something on my BP and lets me go.
Now at LGA, you are required to show your boarding pass to enter the gate from hell (as has been reported here many times). No other airport requires that, but I guess to be super safe, they want to make sure that nothing fishy happend in the 50 feet from the first ID checker and the mag.
Thankfully, I prinited out another BP from the kiosk and flashed that to the gatekeeper. He let me go though.
Now the person in front of me at the initial check was also asked the same thing/ He actually showed the droid another ID. He also had something written on his boarding pass. As I was gathering up my belongings, I saw that he was pulled over and made to go through a secondary.
Glad I had the second boarding pass. And so glad that the second droid really looked carefully at the BP. Couldn't even take the time to see that it wasn't initialed bythe first one.
Damn, I feel safer just typing this out.
I showed Brainiac my Illinois DL. Now this license is almost eight years old (sticker renewal) and is very worn. I have had absolutely no problems at any other airports using it (save a few comments on how old or worn it looks).
Brainiac uses his super-secret blue light on it and then asks me for additional ID. I refuse. He can't believe that I don't have any other ID. So he writes something on my BP and lets me go.
Now at LGA, you are required to show your boarding pass to enter the gate from hell (as has been reported here many times). No other airport requires that, but I guess to be super safe, they want to make sure that nothing fishy happend in the 50 feet from the first ID checker and the mag.
Thankfully, I prinited out another BP from the kiosk and flashed that to the gatekeeper. He let me go though.
Now the person in front of me at the initial check was also asked the same thing/ He actually showed the droid another ID. He also had something written on his boarding pass. As I was gathering up my belongings, I saw that he was pulled over and made to go through a secondary.
Glad I had the second boarding pass. And so glad that the second droid really looked carefully at the BP. Couldn't even take the time to see that it wasn't initialed bythe first one.
Damn, I feel safer just typing this out.
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This actually happened to me at LGA this year.
I showed Brainiac my Illinois DL. Now this license is almost eight years old (sticker renewal) and is very worn. I have had absolutely no problems at any other airports using it (save a few comments on how old or worn it looks).
Brainiac uses his super-secret blue light on it and then asks me for additional ID. I refuse. He can't believe that I don't have any other ID. So he writes something on my BP and lets me go.
Now at LGA, you are required to show your boarding pass to enter the gate from hell (as has been reported here many times). No other airport requires that, but I guess to be super safe, they want to make sure that nothing fishy happend in the 50 feet from the first ID checker and the mag.
Thankfully, I prinited out another BP from the kiosk and flashed that to the gatekeeper. He let me go though.
Now the person in front of me at the initial check was also asked the same thing/ He actually showed the droid another ID. He also had something written on his boarding pass. As I was gathering up my belongings, I saw that he was pulled over and made to go through a secondary.
Glad I had the second boarding pass. And so glad that the second droid really looked carefully at the BP. Couldn't even take the time to see that it wasn't initialed bythe first one.
Damn, I feel safer just typing this out.
I showed Brainiac my Illinois DL. Now this license is almost eight years old (sticker renewal) and is very worn. I have had absolutely no problems at any other airports using it (save a few comments on how old or worn it looks).
Brainiac uses his super-secret blue light on it and then asks me for additional ID. I refuse. He can't believe that I don't have any other ID. So he writes something on my BP and lets me go.
Now at LGA, you are required to show your boarding pass to enter the gate from hell (as has been reported here many times). No other airport requires that, but I guess to be super safe, they want to make sure that nothing fishy happend in the 50 feet from the first ID checker and the mag.
Thankfully, I prinited out another BP from the kiosk and flashed that to the gatekeeper. He let me go though.
Now the person in front of me at the initial check was also asked the same thing/ He actually showed the droid another ID. He also had something written on his boarding pass. As I was gathering up my belongings, I saw that he was pulled over and made to go through a secondary.
Glad I had the second boarding pass. And so glad that the second droid really looked carefully at the BP. Couldn't even take the time to see that it wasn't initialed bythe first one.
Damn, I feel safer just typing this out.
#41



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At risk of being arrested by the homeland security thugs, I'll confess that I've boarded a flight with a fake ID (as a 19-yo college kid). 6 AM flight after the last night of exams, I go to grab my ID out of my wallet and the fake one is still on top of the real one from the bar the night before. I didn't even realize it until he handed me my ID back and said "Have a nice flight." Gulp. Fortunately, the name on my fake matched my own real name, and so all was well.
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At risk of being arrested by the homeland security thugs, I'll confess that I've boarded a flight with a fake ID (as a 19-yo college kid). 6 AM flight after the last night of exams, I go to grab my ID out of my wallet and the fake one is still on top of the real one from the bar the night before. I didn't even realize it until he handed me my ID back and said "Have a nice flight." Gulp. Fortunately, the name on my fake matched my own real name, and so all was well.
#43

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There is a thread on the UA forum about the inane TSA at MCO and in particular the 'expert' line which is populated and staffed by anything but experts.
I have been using JAX whenever possible to avoid MCO, depending on my final destination.
I have been using JAX whenever possible to avoid MCO, depending on my final destination.
#45
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Two _photo_ IDs? Because when I'm traveling domestic, I only have one.
Years and years and years ago, I have flown on other people's tickets, making sure I had some sort of ID with that other person's name on it just in case someone checked.
At risk of being arrested by the homeland security thugs, I'll confess that I've boarded a flight with a fake ID (as a 19-yo college kid)

