Another Satisfied Customer (NOT!)
Jun 26, 2010 | 3:53 pm
#16
Join Date: Jun 2009
Programs: SSSSS
Posts: 867
I stand corrected. You are correct. It is not just the TSA, it is your parent organization the Department of Homeland Security and its sister organization the State Department which makes getting visas for visiting scientists time consuming and expensive.
Jun 26, 2010 | 4:58 pm
#18
Moderator, Hilton Honors
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: on a short leash
Programs: some
Posts: 71,445
Speaking only for myself and many other people I know, travel to USA is at a bare minimum in large part because of the hassles.
Jun 26, 2010 | 10:52 pm
#23
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 464
Really? REALLY??? After everything the OP went through, and the utterly unconscionable invasion of both her privacy and that of her son, you want to take it one step further and throw her son's toilet training into the mix??? Really - that is the question you come away with after reading her blog?
I am appalled by the treatment the OP received at the hands of the TSA. I am equally appalled by your response.
I am appalled by the treatment the OP received at the hands of the TSA. I am equally appalled by your response.
I hadn't even made the connection between the diaper and being 4 years old.
As another smart poster commented
* "Oops ... the cameras aren't working" [EWR]
* "Oops ... the cameras weren't pointing at the incident" [ABQ]
* "Oops ... we deleted the video" [PHL]
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/14146228-post214.html
Last edited by Kiwi Flyer; Jun 27, 2010 at 1:34 pm Reason: merge consecutive posts
Jun 26, 2010 | 11:28 pm
#24
Ambassador: Alaska Airlines
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Seattle
Programs: AS MVP Gold
Posts: 2,733
I hate the TSA as much as the next guy (as long as the next guy is named Spiff), but the original blog post is dated 31 May 2010. Unless someone flagged the tapes for special review, it's highly unlikely that the TSA, or any other public/private entity, still has footage from that far back to review.
24/7 streaming video from dozens of cameras takes up a lot of space. An archival period of more than 72 hours would surprise me, and more than a week would be outlandish.
Of course, a very short archival period (24-48 hours) would ensure that the TSA has footage if a plane goes down, but neatly escapes any potential embarrassment, as any customer complaint is likely to take longer than that to generate public outcry.
24/7 streaming video from dozens of cameras takes up a lot of space. An archival period of more than 72 hours would surprise me, and more than a week would be outlandish.
Of course, a very short archival period (24-48 hours) would ensure that the TSA has footage if a plane goes down, but neatly escapes any potential embarrassment, as any customer complaint is likely to take longer than that to generate public outcry.
Jun 26, 2010 | 11:35 pm
#25
Join Date: Nov 2009
Posts: 464
I hate the TSA as much as the next guy (as long as the next guy is named Spiff), but the original blog post is dated 31 May 2010. Unless someone flagged the tapes for special review, it's highly unlikely that the TSA, or any other public/private entity, still has footage from that far back to review.
24/7 streaming video from dozens of cameras takes up a lot of space. An archival period of more than 72 hours would surprise me, and more than a week would be outlandish.
Of course, a very short archival period (24-48 hours) would ensure that the TSA has footage if a plane goes down, but neatly escapes any potential embarrassment, as any customer complaint is likely to take longer than that to generate public outcry.
24/7 streaming video from dozens of cameras takes up a lot of space. An archival period of more than 72 hours would surprise me, and more than a week would be outlandish.
Of course, a very short archival period (24-48 hours) would ensure that the TSA has footage if a plane goes down, but neatly escapes any potential embarrassment, as any customer complaint is likely to take longer than that to generate public outcry.
Jun 27, 2010 | 7:23 am
#27
In Memoriam, FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Southern California
Programs: DL: 3.8 MM, Marriott: Lifetime Titanium
Posts: 24,575
Folks, let us remind you that a fellow FT'er is NOT the topic of this thread. So we'd ask you to limit your comments to the topic at hand.
We've removed several posts discussing another FT member.
Thanks for your cooperation.
______________________________
Cholula
TS/S Co-Moderator
We've removed several posts discussing another FT member.
Thanks for your cooperation.
______________________________
Cholula
TS/S Co-Moderator
Jun 27, 2010 | 3:17 pm
#28
Join Date: Jul 2006
Programs: United
Posts: 2,710
I hate the TSA as much as the next guy (as long as the next guy is named Spiff), but the original blog post is dated 31 May 2010. Unless someone flagged the tapes for special review, it's highly unlikely that the TSA, or any other public/private entity, still has footage from that far back to review.
24/7 streaming video from dozens of cameras takes up a lot of space. An archival period of more than 72 hours would surprise me, and more than a week would be outlandish.
Of course, a very short archival period (24-48 hours) would ensure that the TSA has footage if a plane goes down, but neatly escapes any potential embarrassment, as any customer complaint is likely to take longer than that to generate public outcry.
24/7 streaming video from dozens of cameras takes up a lot of space. An archival period of more than 72 hours would surprise me, and more than a week would be outlandish.
Of course, a very short archival period (24-48 hours) would ensure that the TSA has footage if a plane goes down, but neatly escapes any potential embarrassment, as any customer complaint is likely to take longer than that to generate public outcry.
It should also be noted that this is 30 frames per second so we if drop that to 15 then we would get sixteen days of video on a single drive.
Disk space is cheep. If they don't have the video it is because they don't want to have the video.
Jun 27, 2010 | 4:17 pm
#29
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: North of DFW
Programs: AA PLT, HH Gold, TSA Disparager Gold, going for Platnium
Posts: 1,535
combatmedic - yeah those costs and rates are inline with prices from retail outlets, they drop 5-20% depending on the qty ordered. You can get a OEM builders pack(10) of 2TB Western Digital Caviar RE 32mb cache, 7200 RPM drives for 1100.
I helped a friend put in a video/audio survalliance system in at his studio where there are 30+ cameras feeding HD feeds 24/7 and he can fit a whole days recording on a single DL DVD, but still has a server with a 10TB data array. All of that cost $5K. TSA doesnt need that many cameras at the CP and in volume could do alot better pricing then that.
I still think the reason the tape disappeared is TSA didnt want it to come to light due to them looking bad. Which also falls in to the pattern of past behavior and evidence, which also is insight into future events and behavior.
I helped a friend put in a video/audio survalliance system in at his studio where there are 30+ cameras feeding HD feeds 24/7 and he can fit a whole days recording on a single DL DVD, but still has a server with a 10TB data array. All of that cost $5K. TSA doesnt need that many cameras at the CP and in volume could do alot better pricing then that.
I still think the reason the tape disappeared is TSA didnt want it to come to light due to them looking bad. Which also falls in to the pattern of past behavior and evidence, which also is insight into future events and behavior.
Jun 27, 2010 | 4:21 pm
#30
Original Poster
Suspended
Join Date: Jul 2008
Posts: 2,725
TSA has a NEGATIVE social value, IMO.
Between TSA, Baby Daley, and the Chicago PD (Hill Street Blues would actually be an improvement), it's a wonder anyone wants to go there.