JFK Terminal 8 escalator-related death 20 Jun 2010
Jun 20, 2010, 10:02 am
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JFK Terminal 8 escalator-related death 20 Jun 2010
Around 0700 this morning, a 55-year-old male passenger went head-first down the right-side escalator at the beginning of the underground passageway toward the remote (C) concourse. Unfortunately, he did not survive the accident. PAPD and medical services responded. This escalator is currently out of service while they investigate. If you ride down the parallel escalator, you can see the evidence of the accident....must have hit his head very seriously.
Probably will be in local news tomorrow.
Folks, please be careful when using these very long, steep escalators! (especially when in a hurry, as we usually are)
Probably will be in local news tomorrow.
Folks, please be careful when using these very long, steep escalators! (especially when in a hurry, as we usually are)
Jun 20, 2010, 11:01 am
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While very tragic, perhaps it's a bit too soon to suggest that the escalator caused this accident. There's a possibility he had a heart attack or medical problem that caused the fall. I'm sure the investigation will determine that.
Jun 20, 2010, 11:04 am
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While this is an unfortunate incident,the cynic in me smells lawsuit for someguy falling down an escalator and killing himself. I hope I'm wrong.
Cheers.
Cheers.
Jun 20, 2010, 12:32 pm
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Jun 20, 2010, 12:52 pm
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Sad, and more related to Travel Safety than any other FlyerTalk topic (though this accident happened in JFK, it's not specific to New York, and though it happened in Terminal 8, which happens to house American Airlines, the escalator is not operated by American Airlines). /Moderator
Jun 20, 2010, 12:54 pm
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There are lots of possibilities of what happened and perhaps multiple factors contributing to the cause.
I hope the AA Forum is not going to be turned into a place for the argument for "tort reform."
Jun 20, 2010, 1:13 pm
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Several months ago, I saw a woman at T8 at the edge of an escalator with blood on her face, conscious etc. but in a great deal of pain. The escalator had gone out of service while she was being serviced. May have been related, may have not been.
However, I feel much more comfortable taking the elevators next time
However, I feel much more comfortable taking the elevators next time
Jun 20, 2010, 2:23 pm
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Oh, my god!!! I don't believe it. He was such hurried to catch his flight and he need to try slowdown and not try to runs fast. These people must to be more carefully out there and don't let you fall down on the escalators.
Jun 20, 2010, 4:12 pm
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One solution to this problem of possible tort action against a property owner (notice I didn't say sidewalk owner, because most public sidewalks are owned by the municipality) is for the property owner to do nothing about clearing ice and snow. But it's not very neighborly. There are known, expected hazards in winter, and we all just do the best we can with them.
I am not a lawyer. (I understand I'm setting myself up to be sued for offering a quasi-legal opinion.)
Jun 21, 2010, 1:02 pm
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One solution to this problem of possible tort action against a property owner (notice I didn't say sidewalk owner, because most public sidewalks are owned by the municipality) is for the property owner to do nothing about clearing ice and snow. But it's not very neighborly. There are known, expected hazards in winter, and we all just do the best we can with them.
I am not a lawyer. (I understand I'm setting myself up to be sued for offering a quasi-legal opinion.)
I am not a lawyer. (I understand I'm setting myself up to be sued for offering a quasi-legal opinion.)
As JFK is publicly maintained property, the thread topic is an altogether different kettle of fish.
Jun 22, 2010, 12:25 pm
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