New types of body scanners
Mar 5, 2010, 3:32 pm
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New types of body scanners
In this link
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/03/05...ex.html?hpt=T2
there are two videos. Watch the second video from England. You can see several interesting things.
here is the direct link to that video:
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2...y.scanners.cnn
1. They have a type of body scanner that not only shows the same kind of detail as the one we got in the US but it even shows a full photographic picture of the person right next to the x-ray. So much for the separation of identity and scan. When they check out a woman they will now even be graced with her pretty face.
2. On the other hand they seem to have a body scanner where you can see only a comic-figure like display of the person, with the suspicious item's position highlighted by a red frame. Now this, I think, is very nice. I'd agree with that if there are no further medical concerns.
3. Another machine is a camera device called Thruvision. It looks like thermal imaging to me. It can detect objects under clothing from far away, even on a moving person and without that person knowing that they are screened. It's basically a see-through security camera. It doesn't pose a decency problem for me like the body scanners we currently use do. But it has a huge civil rights and privacy problem nonetheless.
What do you think?
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http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/03/05...ex.html?hpt=T2
there are two videos. Watch the second video from England. You can see several interesting things.
here is the direct link to that video:
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2...y.scanners.cnn
1. They have a type of body scanner that not only shows the same kind of detail as the one we got in the US but it even shows a full photographic picture of the person right next to the x-ray. So much for the separation of identity and scan. When they check out a woman they will now even be graced with her pretty face.
2. On the other hand they seem to have a body scanner where you can see only a comic-figure like display of the person, with the suspicious item's position highlighted by a red frame. Now this, I think, is very nice. I'd agree with that if there are no further medical concerns.
3. Another machine is a camera device called Thruvision. It looks like thermal imaging to me. It can detect objects under clothing from far away, even on a moving person and without that person knowing that they are screened. It's basically a see-through security camera. It doesn't pose a decency problem for me like the body scanners we currently use do. But it has a huge civil rights and privacy problem nonetheless.
What do you think?
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Mar 5, 2010, 3:47 pm
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1. They have a type of body scanner that not only shows the same kind of detail as the one we got in the US but it even shows a full photographic picture of the person right next to the x-ray. So much for the separation of identity and scan. When they check out a woman they will now even be graced with her pretty face.
Mar 5, 2010, 4:35 pm
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The man's face is fully visible momentarily as he steps into camera range. Additionally:
1) If the camera in the clip is fixed, anyone two or more inches shorter than the the demo subject would have their entire face visible throughout screening. He appears average for Euro/North American white males, so that height range includes the majority of adults. Pre-adolescent children's faces invariably will be fully viewed.
2) If the camera is not fixed, but adjusts to account for the subject's height; machine-adjusted ranging might easily bring a shorter person's entire face into view: if operator-adjusted, presumably any face the operator desires to view/record, unless the person is so tall his/her face is above the maximum height adjustment.
1) If the camera in the clip is fixed, anyone two or more inches shorter than the the demo subject would have their entire face visible throughout screening. He appears average for Euro/North American white males, so that height range includes the majority of adults. Pre-adolescent children's faces invariably will be fully viewed.
2) If the camera is not fixed, but adjusts to account for the subject's height; machine-adjusted ranging might easily bring a shorter person's entire face into view: if operator-adjusted, presumably any face the operator desires to view/record, unless the person is so tall his/her face is above the maximum height adjustment.
Mar 6, 2010, 1:14 am
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I hadn't even thought of that as in-depth as Ari And YCTTSFM but I was certain that I saw the persons face. I watched the thing twice because I couldn't believe it. It also looked to me as if the screener wasn't locally separated from the screened pax but I'm not sure on that. Anyway, it's irrelevant if they have a full body camera image of the person on screen at the same time as the x-ray image. I think it's quite outrageous.
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Dec 26, 2010, 5:25 am
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In this link
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/03/05...ex.html?hpt=T2
there are two videos. Watch the second video from England. You can see several interesting things.
here is the direct link to that video:
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2...y.scanners.cnn
1. They have a type of body scanner that not only shows the same kind of detail as the one we got in the US but it even shows a full photographic picture of the person right next to the x-ray. So much for the separation of identity and scan. When they check out a woman they will now even be graced with her pretty face.
2. On the other hand they seem to have a body scanner where you can see only a comic-figure like display of the person, with the suspicious item's position highlighted by a red frame. Now this, I think, is very nice. I'd agree with that if there are no further medical concerns.
3. Another machine is a camera device called Thruvision. It looks like thermal imaging to me. It can detect objects under clothing from far away, even on a moving person and without that person knowing that they are screened. It's basically a see-through security camera. It doesn't pose a decency problem for me like the body scanners we currently use do. But it has a huge civil rights and privacy problem nonetheless.
What do you think?
Till
http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/03/05...ex.html?hpt=T2
there are two videos. Watch the second video from England. You can see several interesting things.
here is the direct link to that video:
http://cnn.com/video/?/video/world/2...y.scanners.cnn
1. They have a type of body scanner that not only shows the same kind of detail as the one we got in the US but it even shows a full photographic picture of the person right next to the x-ray. So much for the separation of identity and scan. When they check out a woman they will now even be graced with her pretty face.
2. On the other hand they seem to have a body scanner where you can see only a comic-figure like display of the person, with the suspicious item's position highlighted by a red frame. Now this, I think, is very nice. I'd agree with that if there are no further medical concerns.
3. Another machine is a camera device called Thruvision. It looks like thermal imaging to me. It can detect objects under clothing from far away, even on a moving person and without that person knowing that they are screened. It's basically a see-through security camera. It doesn't pose a decency problem for me like the body scanners we currently use do. But it has a huge civil rights and privacy problem nonetheless.
What do you think?
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