Checking Passports Upon Deplaning in US?
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That sounds like CBP -- it's not something I've ever seen TSA do.
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Why did anyone stop for TSA *after* the flight? Just walk on by.
Seriously: Why would anyone think TSA has any authority to examine his paperwork after a flight?
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We're talking international arrivals here. You won't be heading to the exit. First stop would be passport inspection.
We've had two posters now reporting TSA screeners are meeting arriving international aircraft. I just haven't noticed it. Have you?
We've had two posters now reporting TSA screeners are meeting arriving international aircraft. I just haven't noticed it. Have you?
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- Moving through the aisles to that seat would be difficult ... usually, as soon as the plane stops, people jump up to get their bags out of the overhead bins and start crowding the aisles. And this happens independently of any admonitions from the flight crew to stay seated.
- Why assume that the person of interest is actually sitting in the seat they were assigned? If they're at all intelligent, they've probably traded seats with someone, or moved to an empty seat.
- In terms of "retrieval", I'm guessing that it's probably much easier to "detain" a subject in a jetway, where there's a decent amount of space available and the subject is already standing, rather than in an aircraft, where the subject may be three seats away from the aisle and unlikely to want to cooperate with those seeking to detain ...
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This happened for me on the exact same flight about 10 days ago. Made everyone open up their passports and show them on the ramp going down to customs.
It was definitely not the TSA - it was Customs Agents. Black uniforms and guns.
I see this once or twice a year at ORD.
It was definitely not the TSA - it was Customs Agents. Black uniforms and guns.
I see this once or twice a year at ORD.
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Please explain? anti-asylum measure?
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Customs Officers wear dark blue.
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This happened for me on the exact same flight about 10 days ago. Made everyone open up their passports and show them on the ramp going down to customs.
It was definitely not the TSA - it was Customs Agents. Black uniforms and guns.
I see this once or twice a year at ORD.
It was definitely not the TSA - it was Customs Agents. Black uniforms and guns.
I see this once or twice a year at ORD.
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People who flush their passports on board and then arrive at passport control "undocumented," claiming to be from a country for which the USA offers asylum.
Happens more than you might think.
I have gone through federal SIDA training and can assure you that TSA staff does not have authorization to enter any airport jetway unescorted, much less one within a sterile international arrivals area. The OP must be referring to either CBP or ICE, both of which are federal law enforcement agencies charged with enforcing immigration/customs laws. On several occasions arriving from Europe, I have had to show my passport to ICE and/or CBP officers right at the door of the aircraft.
TSA is not a law enforcement agency, and has very few sworn LEOs on its payroll. TSA would not be conducting any checks within a sterile international arrivals area, because TSOs are not authorized to work in that area.
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I have gone through federal SIDA training and can assure you that TSA staff does not have authorization to enter any airport jetway unescorted, much less one within a sterile international arrivals area. The OP must be referring to either CBP or ICE, both of which are federal law enforcement agencies charged with enforcing immigration/customs laws. On several occasions arriving from Europe, I have had to show my passport to ICE and/or CBP officers right at the door of the aircraft.
TSA is not a law enforcement agency, and has very few sworn LEOs on its payroll. TSA would not be conducting any checks within a sterile international arrivals area, because TSOs are not authorized to work in that area.
TSA is not a law enforcement agency, and has very few sworn LEOs on its payroll. TSA would not be conducting any checks within a sterile international arrivals area, because TSOs are not authorized to work in that area.
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I am not trying to be smart. There was a time not to long ago that when filing a complaint you had to specify what color uniform the officer was wearing because there were three seperate agencies working that hall. It would be one of the only ways to track down who was responsible for the action.
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I am aware of how often it happens. It also doesn't change how the subject is processed by CBP. It doesn't matter if the subject is undocumented at the door to the aircraft, undocumentd in the jetway, or undocumented at the booth he no longer has a passport and is claiming asylum.
Whereas if he turns up at the booth and claims to be on a different flight from a different place, probably using a false name, it becomes harder to sort out who he is.
Doesn't help if he destroys his passport after leaving the plane but before the CBP booth, of course.
I bag TSA (and occasionally CBP) for bone-headed moves, but this one sorta makes sense.
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I am not trying to be smart. There was a time not to long ago that when filing a complaint you had to specify what color uniform the officer was wearing because there were three seperate agencies working that hall. It would be one of the only ways to track down who was responsible for the action.
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Definitely not blue, dark blue, dark, dark blue - black.
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No one greeted us on our rtn to ATL in JAN from FCO
Maybe we weren't special enough to warrant a visit.
Maybe we weren't special enough to warrant a visit.
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Be thankful. As I was in C on the 747, I was one of the first dozen off. Even then there was a small line while they checked your passport and verified it was yours. You can imagine the line and backup when the other 200+ people in Y were coming out and lining up.


