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GUWonder Feb 18, 2010 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget (Post 13417402)
Assuming your groups are mutually exclusive, your math is off. :D

I don't think he'd be assuming what you are assuming above, or the math and language are off -- I'm going with the former. ;)

erictank Feb 18, 2010 7:20 pm


Originally Posted by We Will Never Forget (Post 13417402)
Assuming your groups are mutually exclusive, your math is off. :D


Why would you assume they were mutually exclusive? There's no reason said groups can't overlap one or more times.

Which was, I suspect, his point.

We Will Never Forget Feb 18, 2010 9:28 pm


Originally Posted by erictank (Post 13417920)
Why would you assume they were mutually exclusive? There's no reason said groups can't overlap one or more times.

Which was, I suspect, his point.

The way it was stated. :D

N830MH Feb 20, 2010 10:12 pm


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 13417298)
Hopefully with a webcam ^

Yes, I want to see the security surveillance camera at front of checkpoint. I need to do review that I have to watch it. TSO didn't appreciate it for his behavioral. He should have to leave him alone to kept his braces on. Because He can't go through at metal detector without alarm goes off. He will not go through metal detector. Because he can't walk at all. Next time his parents will have to do better things for him.

Obviously, He won't necessary go through into metal detector and another TSO will have to be escorted with her son Ryan will have to be in additional screening before he will process to cleared at security. TSA wasn't aware to taking own responsibilities to need take care with disabilities children. I need to do more investigate against TSO behavioral in PHL from few days ago. I do not likes that way for his behavioral at checkpoint. He will have more appropriate do right thing to do. TSO will have to put him in the secondary screening areas.

pmocek Feb 23, 2010 7:44 am

boy's father posts response to TSA blog contradicting TSA claims
 
This comment was submitted yesterday to the TSA blog, in response to Bob Burns' February 22, 2010, "Four Year Old Boy In Philly Told To Remove Leg Braces" post (must load that page before the comment due to TSA blog malfunction), signed by Bob Thomas:


I am the father of the little boy, Ryan, who was forced to remove his supportive leg braces and walk through the metal detector at PHL airport.

First of all, Mr. Ellis did NOT call me and offer an apology. It was during my phone conversation with the Supervisor of Customer Service that Mr. Ellis entered into the conversation. And that was only at the very end on speaker phone! Isn't that right, Bob?

Secondly, the incident WAS reported to a supervisor. It was his responsibility to file a written report over this incident -not me, my wife or my disabled son.

Upon our return from Florida I did attempt to find out who I could contact to file a complaint about our humiliating experience but I never received any call back or correspondence from the airport manager.

I have never questioned the need for airport security. Bottom line is that the TSA failed miserably in dealing with this situation. They blatantly violated their own written screening directives in addressing individuals who are classified as "Special Needs".

It is becoming more apparent that PHL has serious screening issues and inept, unqualified, untrained agents. Perhaps it's time to clean house beginning with the the airport director. After all, he is ultimately responsible for the actions of his employees.

doober Feb 23, 2010 8:06 am

Fantastic post by Mr. Thomas!

TSA lied again and was caught and called on it. ^^

mikeef Feb 23, 2010 10:01 am


Originally Posted by doober (Post 13445879)
Fantastic post by Mr. Thomas!

TSA lied again and was caught and called on it. ^^

Alas, it won't change anything.

Mike

goalie Feb 23, 2010 10:20 am


Originally Posted by doober (Post 13445879)
Fantastic post by Mr. Thomas!

TSA lied again and was caught and called on it. ^^

absolutely ^ and i really like this part from the pv dated 2/22/10....;)


You may have heard about the story of the four year old in Philly who was told to remove his leg braces.

The account goes back to March 2009, but when PHL Federal Security Director (FSD) Robert Ellis learned about it last week.....
nice prompt action by the tsa.....:rolleyes:

n4zhg Feb 23, 2010 5:09 pm


Originally Posted by mikeef (Post 13446715)
Alas, it won't change anything.

Mike

Both the man and his son have likely been added to the terrorist watch list.

I have to wonder how Blogdad Bob sleeps at night knowing he's merely a mouthpiece for STASI.


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