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GUWonder Feb 15, 2010 6:16 am


Originally Posted by Trollkiller (Post 13388149)
Here is the PDF of the complaint, maybe it will help you nail it down. http://www.aclu.org/files/assets/tsa...t_20100210.pdf

It certainly seems to go toward showing how bigotry goes beyond being just a TSA infection and has infected the FBI in a way that wasn't the case a couple of decades ago. "Pro-Islamic" is a "real threat" while "anti-Islamic" is not? Still on the hunt for communists in America as a "real threat" despite the Soviet Union-esque actions of DHS/TSA and the government depending on financing from Communist China? :td: :td: to the infection of bigotry that has gone epidemic again in the nation.

Someone also should check if his name was flagged by a run against the unAmerican blacklists that the TSA uses and if the TSA had scanned his boarding pass against a machine prior to being subjected to the start of the secondary screening. His first and last name are common enough that it wouldn't be a surprise if it is the name or alias of some actual wanted person.

Here's Nicholas George, the person they treated as a "real threat" at the airport but couldn't identify as a "real threat":

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/10/...uit/index.html

secretbunnyboy Feb 15, 2010 6:45 am

The date of the day in question is given at para 13 under "Factual Allegations" - 12/29/2009.

the official also attempted to make small talk, asking Mr George if he had seen the recent Philadelphia Phillies baseball game. After Mr George responded in the affirmative and offered his opinion of the game, the TSA official admitted that he had not seen the game and did not generally watch the Phillies
:D Is this part of the fancy-schmancy ultra-effective Israeli-inspired psychological profiling we were told the TSA were getting trained in? "Hmmm...he speaks a furren language...and if he doesn't like sports, he's definitely a turrst!"

GUWonder Feb 15, 2010 6:56 am


Originally Posted by secretbunnyboy (Post 13392368)
The date of the day in question is given at para 13 under "Factual Allegations"

Thanks for pointing me to August 29, 2009 as the date of the incident.

Ari Feb 15, 2010 7:28 am


Originally Posted by secretbunnyboy (Post 13392368)
The date of the day in question is given at para 13 under "Factual Allegations" - 12/29/2009.


:D Is this part of the fancy-schmancy ultra-effective Israeli-inspired psychological profiling we were told the TSA were getting trained in? "Hmmm...he speaks a furren language...and if he doesn't like sports, he's definitely a turrst!"

It looks less like your so-called "Israeli-inspired psychological profiling" and more like John Does 1 and 2 stalling until Jane Doe 3 could get there, IMO.

IslandBased Feb 15, 2010 8:03 am

This incident will probably encourage a number of foreign language students to seek employment in commercial or academic fields instead of our government. It may also discourage some from even considering becoming a translator.

wildcatlh Feb 15, 2010 8:57 am


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 13392267)
It certainly seems to go toward showing how bigotry goes beyond being just a TSA infection and has infected the FBI in a way that wasn't the case a couple of decades ago. "Pro-Islamic" is a "real threat" while "anti-Islamic" is not? Still on the hunt for communists in America as a "real threat" despite the Soviet Union-esque actions of DHS/TSA and the government depending on financing from Communist China? :td: :td: to the infection of bigotry that has gone epidemic again in the nation.

Someone also should check if his name was flagged by a run against the unAmerican blacklists that the TSA uses and if the TSA had scanned his boarding pass against a machine prior to being subjected to the start of the secondary screening. His first and last name are common enough that it wouldn't be a surprise if it is the name or alias of some actual wanted person.

Here's Nicholas George, the person they treated as a "real threat" at the airport but couldn't identify as a "real threat":

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/02/10/...uit/index.html

I'm not surprised by this, but the comments to that article make me want to cry.

tsadude1 Feb 15, 2010 9:15 am

So what many of you are stating is that these three screeners forced a LEO to put cuffs onthe kid and haul him off. Never knew we had that option. Somehow I find it hard to believe that this LEO acted without the OK of his superiors.

wildcatlh Feb 15, 2010 9:18 am


Originally Posted by tsadude1 (Post 13393156)
So what many of you are stating is that these three screeners forced a LEO to put cuffs onthe kid and haul him off. Never knew we had that option. Somehow I find it hard to believe that this LEO acted without the OK of his superiors.

The LEO wouldn't have acted in the first place without a TSO referral. One action caused the other ("But for...")

GUWonder Feb 15, 2010 12:03 pm

TSA's voodoo "security" BDOs wanted credit for this "achievement" too. :rolleyes: They claimed that this person interested in joining up with the US State Department was "'exhibiting anomalous behavior' before he reached the checkpoint" that warranted this kind of extraordinary treatment.

GUWonder Feb 15, 2010 12:10 pm


Originally Posted by IslandBased (Post 13392750)
This incident will probably encourage a number of foreign language students to seek employment in commercial or academic fields instead of our government. It may also discourage some from even considering becoming a translator.

He's still interested in taking the USFS written exam in hopes that if he makes it past that stage in trying to become a State Department careerist, he clears the oral part of the exam as well.

It's always nice to see people not surrender their dreams of public service just because they had some negative encounters with fools on the public payrolls.

secretbunnyboy Feb 15, 2010 1:10 pm


Originally Posted by Ari (Post 13392561)
It looks less like your so-called "Israeli-inspired psychological profiling" and more like John Does 1 and 2 stalling until Jane Doe 3 could get there, IMO.

No, I know, hence the :D . Hot tip of the day: don't say "how 'bout those Phillies, huh?" if you don't actually know anything about the Phillies. It won't kill much time. :D

tsadude1 Feb 15, 2010 1:57 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 13394199)
that warranted this kind of extraordinary treatment.

The cop(s) could have easliy stated that there was no need for further discussion and told the TSA that there was nothing to pursue. I've been there and done that. Once the cops show up, it's entirely up to them as to what happens.

Yaatri Feb 15, 2010 2:23 pm


Originally Posted by GUWonder (Post 13394199)
TSA's voodoo "security" BDOs wanted credit for this "achievement" too. :rolleyes: They claimed that this person interested in joining up with the US State Department was "'exhibiting anomalous behavior' before he reached the checkpoint" that warranted this kind of extraordinary treatment.

I wonder about a person who has to ask this question. Does it mean they are a bigot? mentally challenged? What other possibilities are there? Please help me out here. ;)

GUWonder Feb 15, 2010 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by tsadude1 (Post 13394912)
The cop(s) could have easliy stated that there was no need for further discussion and told the TSA that there was nothing to pursue. I've been there and done that. Once the cops show up, it's entirely up to them as to what happens.

It's the BDOs who thought he warranted this extraordinary treatment.

halls120 Feb 15, 2010 2:57 pm


Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer (Post 13384894)
Gonna watch Danica, huh? ;)

I know someone who used to be on Danica's crew when she was an Indycar racer. He said she was a complete female dog to work for. :D


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