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It is a generation of people who have been carefully groomed in the public schools to believe NOTHING is worth dying for, NOTHING is worth fighting for, and war is never right. They have been taught to admire and WATCH heros, but NEVER to fight, but cowardice and submission to robbers, swindlers, crooked politicians, authorities and government is praised and rewarded.
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I agree with above posters re: terrorist plots, it seems there are many seemingly effective plots that would be easy and cheap to pull off. I don't know if that means that the authorities are protecting us or that the bad guys really are just a poorly trained and poorly funded bunch of misfits. I, too, was expecting major terror attacks at the peak of the economic crisis.
FWIW though I think the heightened sense of fear (even if it is overblown) serves the public good pretty well. Americans as a lot are - as mentioned - cowardly, lazy, apathetic and nearly braindead. Perhaps it takes a constant, soiled-pants level of fear to even get people to notice someone sticking bombs to the pumps at the gas station or acting suspiciously on a plane. |
Originally Posted by tfar
(Post 13143797)
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I really wonder why they are not doing it. You don't even need that much manpower. And you could set the bombs on timers. Imagine to have just 100 gas stations blow up every day for a week randomly all over the nation. Total havoc. Is it hard to blow up a gas station? All this to say that even if they could make flying safe, which they cannot, there are a million other places to hit. Softer and even more vulnerable targets. I don't get it. :( ---While there are many who sympathize with the perpetrators of these acts, their actual numbers are not that large- especially ones who could operate in US society without being noticed. ---Our domestic intelligence system is really pretty good, with local law enforcement now much more aware and active in this area (e.g., cultivating informants). ---AQ, in particular, is focused on very large, spectacular attacks to make an impression throughout the world. ---To mount a coordinated series of attacks on economic targets like malls or gas stations would require many more resources including people, communications, weaponry, etc. Once you get into that sort of complexity, the possibilities of being detected increase significantly. That doesn't mean it won't happen. If it does, however, I would expect it to involve only a small number of targets using less than highly skilled talent- sort of like the guys who have been captured recently. |
Originally Posted by SA_robert
(Post 13145511)
We can only speculate. I suspect it is a combination of factors, including the following:
---While there are many who sympathize with the perpetrators of these acts, their actual numbers are not that large- especially ones who could operate in US society without being noticed. ---Our domestic intelligence system is really pretty good, with local law enforcement now much more aware and active in this area (e.g., cultivating informants). ---AQ, in particular, is focused on very large, spectacular attacks to make an impression throughout the world. ---To mount a coordinated series of attacks on economic targets like malls or gas stations would require many more resources including people, communications, weaponry, etc. Once you get into that sort of complexity, the possibilities of being detected increase significantly. That doesn't mean it won't happen. If it does, however, I would expect it to involve only a small number of targets using less than highly skilled talent- sort of like the guys who have been captured recently. I hope the answer really is that there are not that many guys out there. That on the other hand makes the situation not necessarily look any better. If there are only a few, and just these few can keep the biggest military nation in the world shaking of fear, something is very wrong. Till |
Undressing the Terror Threat
There was an excellent article in the Journal today on this topic. Check it:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...587677752.html |
Originally Posted by PhoenixRev
(Post 13144273)
Patriots are few. Cowards are many.
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Originally Posted by god_forbids
(Post 13149931)
There was an excellent article in the Journal today on this topic. Check it:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...587677752.html Last night I watched Washington Unplugged with Bob Schieffer http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...eaturedPost-PE Charles Glass, one of the interviewees, said we need to do what Margaret Thatcher did during the time of IRA terrorism. She refused to call these thugs terrorists, but rather referred to them as "criminals", because that is all they are, common criminals. When you refuse to use the term "terrorist" you eliminate a great deal of the psychological impact of their acts. |
Originally Posted by doober
(Post 13150883)
An excellent article. Thank you for posting it.
Last night I watched Washington Unplugged with Bob Schieffer http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...eaturedPost-PE Charles Glass, one of the interviewees, said we need to do what Margaret Thatcher did during the time of IRA terrorism. She refused to call these thugs terrorists, but rather referred to them as "criminals", because that is all they are, common criminals. When you refuse to use the term "terrorist" you eliminate a great deal of the psychological impact of their acts. That might have more impact than anything else. Call them criminals, murderers, sociopaths; treat them as what they really are: isolated, marginal people with violent antisocial agendas. |
Originally Posted by IslandBased
(Post 13150950)
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That might have more impact than anything else. Call them criminals, murderers, sociopaths; treat them as what they really are: isolated, marginal people with violent antisocial agendas. |
Originally Posted by 4444
(Post 13151181)
i think we should stick with the term terrorists. with all the rights we afford criminals in this country it would be a crime to see them as eqauls...
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Originally Posted by doober
(Post 13151199)
Using the term "terrorist" gives validity to their cause; if you take away that validity, you go a long way toward taking away their power to terrorize.
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Excellent article -- exactly what I have been trying to say for years, but was never able to put so eloquently.
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Patriots are few, but idiots are many! I am shocked by the number of people who will agree to do anything and everything in the name of imaged safety.
I predict they will be screening people wearing only underwear soon enough but the masses of sheep will agree to it. |
Originally Posted by doober
(Post 13150883)
When you refuse to use the term "terrorist" you eliminate a great deal of the psychological impact of their acts.
I agree with you and Prime Minister Thatcher's words, it just wouldn't work in modern U.S. politics. |
Another part of the issue, I'm convinced, is the number of people who have a vested intersted in keeping things the way they are. Everybody from managers in the TSA whose salary is dependent upon their budget, security "experts" who write books, equipment manufacturers, contracted security companies, the news media selling their "scary time" ratings, to who knows, is benefiting from the "current mentality." Here's what really scares me: What happens when the terrorists decide, "We've had enough of airports. Instead, we're going to set off bombs in podunk towns in each of the 50 states, with a few extras thrown in at random. Maybe it is related to the top item. Is keeping Western civilization afraid of their own shadow more important than destroying it? |
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