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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 3:21 pm
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Nutella is a liquid!

The scene: Luton Airport London (more or less London)
The time: 12 noon, 8th December
The cast: A kindly safety inspector, a hapless flyer

I watched while a very polite inspector pulled out of one man's hand luggage: four jars of Nutella, and two large plastic bottles of shampoo.

Inspector: These will have to stay here, sir.
Flyer (obviously an Eastern European, probably Russian): ??? What??? What??
Inspector: They can't go past security, sir. I will have to throw them out.
Flyer: Nuuuu. Is for children. (Pulls out wallet and shows pictures of three children).
Inspector: I am sorry, sir, but they will have to stay here.
Flyer: Nuuu. Is for children!!!

This went on for some time. The useful intelligence wasn't that the flyer had a total of about 4 litres of prohibited items, but that Nutella is officially a liquid!

Tell that to the makers, it might get them some sort of tax break.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 3:44 pm
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This happened in the UK? Figures
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by spainflyer
The scene: Luton Airport London (more or less London)
The time: 12 noon, 8th December
The cast: A kindly safety inspector, a hapless flyer

I watched while a very polite inspector pulled out of one man's hand luggage: four jars of Nutella, and two large plastic bottles of shampoo.

Inspector: These will have to stay here, sir.
Flyer (obviously an Eastern European, probably Russian): ??? What??? What??
Inspector: They can't go past security, sir. I will have to throw them out.
Flyer: Nuuuu. Is for children. (Pulls out wallet and shows pictures of three children).
Inspector: I am sorry, sir, but they will have to stay here.
Flyer: Nuuu. Is for children!!!

This went on for some time. The useful intelligence wasn't that the flyer had a total of about 4 litres of prohibited items, but that Nutella is officially a liquid!

Tell that to the makers, it might get them some sort of tax break.
emphasis mine: i'd say this is the perfect time to say, "think of the chillun"

Originally Posted by bocastephen
This happened in the UK? Figures
yup, brought to you by the united kingdom of liquid paranoia (with of course, no disrespect meant or intended to to my uk f/t'er friends )

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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 5:49 pm
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it could have been rendered magically safe by spreading it on 2 slices of bread
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 6:09 pm
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Originally Posted by bocastephen
This happened in the UK? Figures
Yes, that is problems in U.K. Next time he should have to put the large liquid to placed into the checked bags and not go through at security checkpoint.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 8:41 pm
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Might have been a classmate of the UK screener who confiscated spaghetti noodles because they are a liquid.

Yes, I know, but have no answer when it comes to screeners.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 8:44 pm
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Originally Posted by spainflyer
The scene: Luton Airport London (more or less London)
The time: 12 noon, 8th December
The cast: A kindly safety inspector, a hapless flyer

I watched while a very polite inspector pulled out of one man's hand luggage: four jars of Nutella, and two large plastic bottles of shampoo.

Inspector: These will have to stay here, sir.
Flyer (obviously an Eastern European, probably Russian): ??? What??? What??
Inspector: They can't go past security, sir. I will have to throw them out.
Flyer: Nuuuu. Is for children. (Pulls out wallet and shows pictures of three children).
Inspector: I am sorry, sir, but they will have to stay here.
Flyer: Nuuu. Is for children!!!

This went on for some time. The useful intelligence wasn't that the flyer had a total of about 4 litres of prohibited items, but that Nutella is officially a liquid!

Tell that to the makers, it might get them some sort of tax break.
We had a sealed jar of almond butter confiscated in FRA during the summer of 2008. Sounds like this security officer was of the same mind. Funny how the almond butter got through TSA in SFO without any issues on that same trip.
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Old Dec 11, 2009 | 10:39 pm
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Originally Posted by janehoya
We had a sealed jar of almond butter confiscated in FRA during the summer of 2008. Sounds like this security officer was of the same mind. Funny how the almond butter got through TSA in SFO without any issues on that same trip.
I don't see anything problems in SFO at all. You didn't have any common problems from TSA. I wasn't aware about any specific problems from TSA policy. You won't necessary to carry the jars into the checkpoint. Next time you should have to put the large jars into the checked bags.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 2:09 am
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Notice how when you spread Nutella with a knife on bread and the Nutella gets wiped all over the bread and the metal from the knife doesn't? That is because the knife is metal and is a solid at room temperature. Nutella is not a solid and thus the rules apply. I'm not sure how this is really threadworthy.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 2:47 am
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Originally Posted by AngryMiller
Might have been a classmate of the UK screener who confiscated spaghetti noodles because they are a liquid.

Yes, I know, but have no answer when it comes to screeners.
Here in New Zealand, we are told" "If you can pour it or smear it, it must follow the regulation for liquids."

Hence, Nutella (and toothpaste) would both be classified for security purposes as being liquids.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 5:13 am
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Originally Posted by thegeneral
Notice how when you spread Nutella with a knife on bread and the Nutella gets wiped all over the bread and the metal from the knife doesn't? That is because the knife is metal and is a solid at room temperature. Nutella is not a solid and thus the rules apply. I'm not sure how this is really threadworthy.
Too bad that some metals are capable of being smeared at room temperatures. Does that make them liquids?
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 5:14 am
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Originally Posted by celle
Here in New Zealand, we are told" "If you can pour it or smear it, it must follow the regulation for liquids."

Hence, Nutella (and toothpaste) would both be classified for security purposes as being liquids.
We're told the same thing over here as well. IMHO the security apparatus does this only to make its job easier.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 4:44 pm
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You can pour sand. Does that make it a liquid?
Canned pie filling is a liquid but pie is not, per TSA.

The truth is that the TSA never provided a good definition to what is considered a liquid. They also decided to prohibit a whole state of matter without any solid justification for it.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 4:51 pm
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Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
You can pour sand. Does that make it a liquid?
Canned pie filling is a liquid but pie is not, per TSA.

The truth is that the TSA never provided a good definition to what is considered a liquid. They also decided to prohibit a whole state of matter without any solid justification for it.
I was once stopped at a check point and made to give up my tin of talcum powder, "because you can pour it." So I guess some over-conscientious agent could call sand a liquid - guess it depends which side of the bed he/ she got out of that morning!

I already know that lipstick, lip balm, and mascara are all "liquids" and have to go into that little plastic bag for inspection.
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Old Dec 12, 2009 | 8:41 pm
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Yes the rules are actually spelled out:

http://www.heathrowairport.com/asset...cant_aug07.pdf

Allowed items - unrestricted
• Sandwiches.
• Crisps.
• Fruit.
• Vegetables.
• Wedding cake.
• Other solid foods.

Allowed items - Need to be in containers 100ml or less, and go into your one transparent, re-sealable bag.

• Jams and syrups.
• Soups.
• Stews.
• Sauces.
• Pastes.
• Foods in sauces or dishes with a high liquid content.
• Yoghurts or fruit juices.


I think you will struggle to find a Nutella jar that is 100ml or less, but if the children need it so badly, the Nutella can be checked in, with no issues.

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