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I flew out of MSP on Monday afternoon and thought the checkpoint was rather subdued.
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Originally Posted by AngryMiller
(Post 12956809)
I flew out of MSP on Monday afternoon and thought the checkpoint was rather subdued.
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Originally Posted by IslandBased
(Post 12956894)
Subdued as in medicated or dejected? ;)
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Originally Posted by avsfan733
(Post 12956295)
isn't this really the wrong thread? shouldn't the question be "Any noticeable checkpoint differences when you whipped out your bound copy of the SOP and pointed to exactly where they were wrong?"
Originally Posted by tsa.gov
This version of the document was not the everyday screening manual used by Transportation Security Officers at airport checkpoints. As TSA is constantly adapting to address evolving threats, there have been six newer versions of the procedures since the version posted was approved.
We know that the SOP is SSI. It's reasonable to conclude that the SOP has changed somewhat since this document was produced. So, that leaves us exactly where we were before ... TSOs following procedures which aren't available to the public, with therefore no public accountability for following those procedures correctly. |
Originally Posted by AngryMiller
(Post 12956919)
Dejected. Sort of like when a dept head pulls everyone in and screams at them for a couple hours.
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Nope
Nothing to report. It was slow day too
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Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 12956927)
Ahh, but TSA already has an answer for this. Consider their official statement:
Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 12956927)
We know that the SOP is SSI. It's reasonable to conclude that the SOP has changed somewhat since this document was produced. So, that leaves us exactly where we were before ... TSOs following procedures which aren't available to the public, with therefore no public accountability for following those procedures correctly.
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Originally Posted by avsfan733
(Post 12957421)
They Can't even follow their published procedures :D you seriously think having the rules published would have any impact?
Of course, I'm known around my workplace as the eternal optimist ... :) |
Originally Posted by Tom M.
(Post 12956356)
Originally Posted by avsfan733
(Post 12956295)
when you whipped out your bound copy of the SOP and pointed to exactly where they were wrong?"
I wonder what would happen if you through a copy in a bin as you went through security? How about a Trollkiller designed t-shirt with this big image on the front? :D http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...f873hf874r.jpg |
Originally Posted by jkhuggins
(Post 12958551)
In some cases, yes. It would certainly deflate some of the puffery that goes on occasionally (as oft reported here and elsewhere) when a TSO says "I know the rules, you're wrong", even if the TSO is in fact demonstrably wrong. Granted, that's about one step too late in the process. But, over time, it might have an impact.
Of course, I'm known around my workplace as the eternal optimist ... :) I suspect the reaction would be doubleplusungood. |
Originally Posted by N965VJ
(Post 12961608)
FTers like to travel light, so why lug that 93 page manual around.
How about a Trollkiller designed t-shirt with this big image on the front? :D http://i29.photobucket.com/albums/c2...f873hf874r.jpg |
Originally Posted by n4zhg
(Post 12966347)
I wonder what would happen if a passenger encountered this, whipped out the document on dead tree, and told the TSO to "show me where"?
I suspect the reaction would be doubleplusungood. [screaming :eek:] "LEO!!!! Over here, NOW!!!! I found The Guy who hacked that there government web site and stole our SOP!!!! [/screaming :eek:] |
Originally Posted by Flaflyer
(Post 12966924)
Sadly, the first pax who tries it will be standing in front of a TSO who thinks he has found the bling award worthy Big Catch™ of the Year.
[screaming :eek:] "LEO!!!! Over here, NOW!!!! I found The Guy who hacked that there government web site and stole our SOP!!!! [/screaming :eek:] The LEO that helps with the stunt is going to be undercover at gay bath houses until retirement. Wearing a barrel with the bunghole over his butt. |
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