Originally Posted by RadioGirl (Post 12845844)

Ron, no matter how many times you call this video "proof" it doesn't make it proof. I believe my own eyes, as you put it, when I see things in person. I'm inclined to believe my own eyes when I see a video if every effort is made to show continuity and eliminate all other possibilities
But here's my final problem with your "proof." If it's really as simple as orange powder + clear liquid + shake it up + detonator, then it's trivially, absurdly, laughably easy for anyone to take an empty container (allowed), packets of orange powder (allowed) and several 3.4 ounce bottles of the clear liquid (allowed) and recreate the mix shown in the video. In other words, if this is really your proof about liquid explosives, the liquid restrictions in place today do NOTHING AT ALL to prevent it happening.

If you continue to insist that this is proof when it could just as easily be simple video special effects, then it is you whose mind is closed.

Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 12832379)

Virtually anything can be made into a weapon and remain concealed. We catch sword canes several times a month, belt buckles with knives or guns, shoes with razor blades in them, even though they are more prone to be found in a poor movie rather than at a checkpoint. We do what we can to mitigate the threat to the passengers that fly, to do any less would be a disservice to the traveling public.



Only if you are the one doing to defining. The rest of the passengers can recognize options when they see them. To prove my point, the very next time you go through a checkpoint bring along your full sized shampoo. You will be given the option to either abandon it or transport it out of the sterile area to do with as you will. If they “confiscate” it, provide me with the proof and I will happily pay to replace it.

Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 12846310)

Its basic chemistry. Chem101. “Add this to that and you get this reaction.” The earth is not flat, the sun does not revolve around the earth, and the camera will not take your soul. Time to step up and be an adult and admit that you are wrong.

Originally Posted by Italy98 (Post 12846436)

One of my trips I forgot to put a pair of scissors with 3 inch blades into my suitcase, leaving them in my shaving kit. Going through security they were CONFISCATED and thrown into the trash. I was not given the option of sending them home.

Originally Posted by TSORon (Post 12839627)

AM, I cant argue against your point. Which of course in a small way reinforces my point that anything can be made into a weapon and remain covert. The degree of latitude you write about is needed to deal with that threat. Unfortunately there are those out there who abuse that latitude on occasion. There is no way that this small percentage of TSO’s can be prevented from entering the work force, the TSA does what it can within reason and the applicable laws, to not employ these types of folks.

Now, if we could just talk people into not building these covert weapons…