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Originally Posted by goalie
(Post 12763617)
emphasis mine: i dunno, and maybe it's me with 30+ years of regulatory banking, compliance and bank secrecy act experience but could it be that the tsa was in violation of the law to begin with? ;)
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Originally Posted by BubbaLoop
OK, so assuming it is true (and I only accept the possibility because I respect you), why was it not announced pre-Britney?
And there's been many, many more. |
Originally Posted by HSVTSO Dean
(Post 12766784)
TSA does not have a good record on announcing changes to the screening process. For example, when the policy about WTMD alarms was changed from max-one alarm to max-two (how many alarms you were allowed before automatically being sent to additional screening), there was no public announcement about that. When the policy further changed from max-two to unlimited attempts, there was still no announced policy change.
And there's been many, many more. TSA does not have a good record! |
Originally Posted by HSVTSO Dean
(Post 12766784)
TSA does not have a good record on announcing changes to the screening process. For example, when the policy about WTMD alarms was changed from max-one alarm to max-two (how many alarms you were allowed before automatically being sent to additional screening), there was no public announcement about that. When the policy further changed from max-two to unlimited attempts, there was still no announced policy change.
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Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 12765633)
For TSA to involve itself in this area just demonstrates that they are wanting to be a State Police Agency. |
Originally Posted by greentips
(Post 12767133)
Did you mean Police State Agency?
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So, all we need to do to get idiotic screening rules changed is to get some celebrity to insist on not undergoing screening?
Let's ask Shaq to refuse to take off his size 21's! And let's ask Steve Jobs to refuse to take his Powerbook out! |
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No there is nothing officially out on the money/search issue.
The frozen liquids rule change was before Britney in LA. Any liquid in with the ice over 100 ml will prohibit it from being allowed. |
Originally Posted by goalie
(Post 12763617)
emphasis mine: i dunno, and maybe it's me with 30+ years of regulatory banking, compliance and bank secrecy act experience but could it be that the tsa was in violation of the law to begin with? ;)
Kudos to someone for finally getting woken up (through bad publicity involving the Paul aide, if nothing else) to the logical fallacy. |
Originally Posted by eyecue
(Post 12815426)
No there is nothing officially out on the money/search issue.
The frozen liquids rule change was before Britney in LA. Any liquid in with the ice over 100 ml will prohibit it from being allowed. On the currency issue check OD-400-54-6 "Discovery of Currency During the Screening Process" Effective October 29, 2009 |
Originally Posted by arc
(Post 12816184)
If that were the case, then the vast majority of drug interdiction law enforcement would be as well. I'm amused by this change in policy insomuch as I've seen a number of cases where part of an officer's stated reasons justifying a continued detention, search, etc. has been the presence of >about $1000 in cash. Large amounts of cash mean drugs, right, because since drug dealers accumulate large amounts of cash, then conversely, anyone with large amounts of cash must be a drug dealer, right?
Kudos to someone for finally getting woken up (through bad publicity involving the Paul aide, if nothing else) to the logical fallacy. I'm not a LEO or a lawyer, so I have no way to comment on whether or not finding a large quantity of cash gives a LEO probable cause to search for drugs. But TSOs aren't tasked with searching for drugs; they're tasked to search for WEIs, and only WEIs. A large quantity of cash isn't a threat to aviation safety, and thus shouldn't result in any further action. |
OD-400-54-6: public domain?
Originally Posted by Trollkiller
(Post 12762739)
A little birdie whispered in my ear that the SOP has changed for large sums of currency. The new Directive is OD-400-54-6 "Discovery of Currency During the Screening Process" Effective October 29, 2009.
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false alarm
Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 13324013)
I'm on the phone with someone from TSA's FOIA office who called about my November 6, 2009, FOIA request for OD-400-54-6. She believes it's in the public domain, but has not yet been able to point me to any place that it's available on the Web.
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Who would have thunk-it, TSA can screw up filing Directives.
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Originally Posted by pmocek
(Post 13324152)
She said contrary to my suspicion, finding OD-400-54-6 is not as simple as turning four pages past OD-400-54-2 in a book of TSA operational directives. So my request remains open.
Originally Posted by Boggie Dog
(Post 13324356)
Who would have thunk-it, TSA can screw up filing Directives.
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