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SATTSO Oct 27, 2009 9:32 pm


Originally Posted by jkhuggins (Post 12721830)
See, this is what makes navigating TSA so frakking frustrating. TSA can't come out and say "this is permitted", full stop, no apologies, no prevaricating, no "well, most of the time ...", no "I think it'll be ok", and so on. By policy, passengers are always subject to the whim of the particular TSOs on duty.

Oh, I'm sorry, I'm actually offering serious commentary. Let's get back to the donut jokes. :D

I do understand your frustrations. There is no policy that deals with donuts, but there is a policy that deals with LGAs. I'll explain it like this, if it's a liquid, gel, spray, cream, paste, lotion, it has to meet certain size restrictions (not talking or dealing with medicines here). So you decide; based on just that, is you were the TSO, what would you do when you encounter the dreaded jelly filled donuts? In this situation that is the official policy concerning these kinds of foods.

I have never seen donuts not allowed, actually never seen them questioned.

Mats Oct 27, 2009 10:08 pm

Well, pie is forbidden.

The TSA was confiscating pies and feeding them to troops (I'm not making this up.) The pies were so hazardous that they needed to be fed to those serving our country.

A filled doughnut might be okay, but a filled pie is obviously too dangerous to be brought into a secured area of the airport.

SATTSO Oct 27, 2009 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by Mats (Post 12722239)
Well, pie is forbidden.

The TSA was confiscating pies and feeding them to troops (I'm not making this up.) The pies were so hazardous that they needed to be fed to those serving our country.

A filled doughnut might be okay, but a filled pie is obviously too dangerous to be brought into a secured area of the airport.

I'm kind of curious, where and when did this happen? And I wonder why so many passengers were bringing pies all at the same time. Even during the holiday season at SAT we don't see but a few pies a day, if at all. Actually saw one brought through yesterday. Pumpkin pie! Went through no problems...

chatmax Oct 27, 2009 10:54 pm

I take cakes with frosting everytime i do my quarterly run to YVR. My aunts love me for bringing them back. I use to bring in Krispy Kremes in Delta/Surrey but it's just too far out of the way. When i did go thru security with the Krispies, security would joke that they might to confiscate them. All in good humour.

General_Flyer Oct 27, 2009 11:49 pm

To attempt or not to attempt... That is the question..

But one might as well just do it.. Of course, this will be a lesson either easily learned, or hardily learned..

edmali Oct 28, 2009 1:58 am


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12722260)
I'm kind of curious, where and when did this happen? And I wonder why so many passengers were bringing pies all at the same time. Even during the holiday season at SAT we don't see but a few pies a day, if at all. Actually saw one brought through yesterday. Pumpkin pie! Went through no problems...

It happens every Thanksgiving.

This past Thanksgiving, a local TV reporter was at CLE talking about pies not being let through.

However, she mentioned that the pies were going to a good home - the local USO.

IIRC, Bob had an article on pies on PV.

Ed

whirledtraveler Oct 28, 2009 3:44 am


Originally Posted by janehoya (Post 12716931)
Exactly. So, if the TSA decides to make an issue and only let the OP travel with the non-jelly donuts, how will they determine which those are? Just wondering.

I tell you, though, if someone goes through security with a dozen doughnuts and the TSA actually separates and confiscates the jellied ones. It would be the news story of the century - a perfect way of highlighting the madness. It would be ever better if someone did it close to the 10th anniversary of 9/11. :D

ND Sol Oct 28, 2009 5:19 am


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12722260)
I'm kind of curious, where and when did this happen? And I wonder why so many passengers were bringing pies all at the same time. Even during the holiday season at SAT we don't see but a few pies a day, if at all. Actually saw one brought through yesterday. Pumpkin pie! Went through no problems...

Pie: A Danger to Free People Everywhere

Blogger Bob Says Pies are OK

jkhuggins Oct 28, 2009 5:35 am


Originally Posted by SATTSO (Post 12722072)
There is no policy that deals with donuts, but there is a policy that deals with LGAs. I'll explain it like this, if it's a liquid, gel, spray, cream, paste, lotion, it has to meet certain size restrictions (not talking or dealing with medicines here). So you decide; based on just that, is you were the TSO, what would you do when you encounter the dreaded jelly filled donuts? In this situation that is the official policy concerning these kinds of foods.

Then how do you reconcile this policy with the other policy that says that pies are allowed through the checkpoint? After all, pumpkin pie is mostly a gel.

See, the LGA Policy says that pumpkin pies aren't allowed. The Pie Policy says that pies are allowed of any sort. Which one are you going to enforce when I come through the line?

tcl Oct 28, 2009 5:46 am

I guess I shouldn't even think of bringing chocolate lava cakes home then :( Was thinking of pre-baking them in my kitchen.

Come to think of it, I haven't brought a single baked good home since this whole security theatre started. I just stopped bothering after the guy in the Camo holding the gun told LGA TSA to take my earrings. (1" long gold dangly matchsticks that were fashionable a few years back). LGA TSA were surprised but Camo-guy told them to again, so they let me mail it to a friend. Upon going back through security Camo-guy was pissed off at them and ordered a secondary twice, because LGA TSA were "too apologetic" and "only went through the motions" the first time. LGA TSA were very nice but Camo-guy was an a**. :td:

Can you mail the donuts instead? Or lace the donuts with habenero? :D

SATTSO Oct 28, 2009 10:24 am


Originally Posted by jkhuggins (Post 12723259)
Then how do you reconcile this policy with the other policy that says that pies are allowed through the checkpoint? After all, pumpkin pie is mostly a gel.

See, the LGA Policy says that pumpkin pies aren't allowed. The Pie Policy says that pies are allowed of any sort. Which one are you going to enforce when I come through the line?

At SAT pie are allowed through. I think I mentioned before, just saw one go through 2 days ago.

As with donuts, until recently there was no policy regarding pies. I believe another person said they were able to bring pies through, with no problems.

I can reconcile the "pie policy" with LGA policy the same as with medicines that are LGA's. Exceptions are made.

SATTSO Oct 28, 2009 2:40 pm


Originally Posted by tcl (Post 12723283)
I guess I shouldn't even think of bringing chocolate lava cakes home then :( Was thinking of pre-baking them in my kitchen.

Come to think of it, I haven't brought a single baked good home since this whole security theatre started. I just stopped bothering after the guy in the Camo holding the gun told LGA TSA to take my earrings. (1" long gold dangly matchsticks that were fashionable a few years back). LGA TSA were surprised but Camo-guy told them to again, so they let me mail it to a friend. Upon going back through security Camo-guy was pissed off at them and ordered a secondary twice, because LGA TSA were "too apologetic" and "only went through the motions" the first time. LGA TSA were very nice but Camo-guy was an a**. :td:

Can you mail the donuts instead? Or lace the donuts with habenero? :D

Call the airport your attempting to fly from to see if you can bring the lava cakes. However, I would just bring them. I am assuming they will be packaged, as opposed to on a tray wrapped in foil/plastic? Many people bring food in coolers, the food wrapped in foil/plastic. On x-ray its hard to tell if there is a "liquid" center to food, such as donuts. Food though is often checked, not because it isn't allowed through, but because it may meet certain conditions on the x-ray screen. Tell the TSO's if they question you that they are cup-cakes, nothing else.

General_Flyer Oct 28, 2009 11:40 pm

Best to try, better not to..

Anyway, I'll report back what happened when I bring the donuts in the air with jellies and all...

opushomes Oct 29, 2009 12:10 am


Originally Posted by ND Sol (Post 12720334)
I wouldn't consider a city with over 75% non-Hispanic white to be much of a melting pot, especially where no other group accounts for even 7% of the population. Well, perhaps if you are comparing it to Vermont.

And the purpose of this comment was what exactly??

ND Sol Oct 29, 2009 7:39 am


Originally Posted by opushomes (Post 12729493)
And the purpose of this comment was what exactly??

What's up with the bold underline? I was not berating the OP in the least about this. I just wanted the facts to be out there and the fact is Portland does not have much of a mix of races, which would constitute a melting pot city. It is not a small San Francisco in that regard. It is hard to make a melting pot when three-quarters of the ingredients is white rice. The other ingredients are not so much an integral part, but only to add some spice and flavoring.

I have been to Portland a number of times, and while I have enjoyed it, the lack of diversity is apparent. In addition, the strict land-use restrictions have an indirect racist effect as it prices many people out of the housing market. So they have to live outside of the restricted area or move to a town that is more welcoming.


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