Flair Airlines and Lynx Air in merger talks; Lynx files for CCAA creditor protection.
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Flair Airlines and Lynx Air in merger talks; Lynx files for CCAA creditor protection.
Discount carriers Flair Airlines and Lynx Air in merger talks, industry insiders say
Airline industry sources say a merger between discount carriers Flair Airlines and Lynx Air could be announced as soon as Thursday.
Flair declined to confirm or deny the two carriers were in advanced discussions about a potential alliance.
Lynx didn't immediately respond to requests for comment.
Three separate industry sources, however, confirmed to the Star that the two airlines are in discussions about a potential merger, and said a deal could be announced as soon as Thursday.
Flair currently has 20 planes in its fleet, while Lynx has eight.
Flair declined to confirm or deny the two carriers were in advanced discussions about a potential alliance.
Lynx didn't immediately respond to requests for comment.
Three separate industry sources, however, confirmed to the Star that the two airlines are in discussions about a potential merger, and said a deal could be announced as soon as Thursday.
Flair currently has 20 planes in its fleet, while Lynx has eight.
Although I was not necessarily expecting this, I think most here thought one of these carriers will eventually go bust as relying solely on investor funding is not sustainable long-term and can only take you so far. If this deal were to close, having one somewhat robust ULCC instead of risking the demise of one of these airlines is a preferred option long term in order to keep AC/WJ pricing in check.
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Discount carriers Flair Airlines and Lynx Air in merger talks, industry insiders say
Full article: https://www.thestar.com/business/dis...d7489ee49.html
Although I was not necessarily expecting this, I think most here thought one of these carriers will eventually go bust as relying solely on investor funding is not sustainable long-term and can only take you so far. If this deal were to close, having one somewhat robust ULCC instead of risking the demise of one of these airlines is a preferred option long term in order to keep AC/WJ pricing in check.
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just what Canada needed, less competition!
I wish we had more competition but we are stuck with two major airlines which cost an arm and a leg and somehow both of them are equally bad (at least when flying within Canada).
I wish we had more competition but we are stuck with two major airlines which cost an arm and a leg and somehow both of them are equally bad (at least when flying within Canada).
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The U.S. has had a few successful ULCCs but their market is massively larger than ours. Ryanair, EasyJet and Wizz have been very successful in Europe, but again their "domestic" market is many times larger than Canada's.
Hopefully Flair can survive and pick up aircraft and staff from the rubble of Lynx.
I still believe there are too many airlines trying to compete in Canada--from a financial standpoint, not from that of a consumer. Obviously anything that reduces competition is good for investors and bankers of the surviving carriers but not for the traveling public.
I do predict that eventually there will be some sort of tie-up between Porter and WestJet as well.
I maintain that part of the problem was trying to operate an ULCC model while using some of the highest-cost, most delay-prone airports in North America. Choosing to fly to YYZ instead of YHM and YVR instead of YXX, while attempting to undercut powerful rivals like AC, was poor judgment.
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I still believe there are too many airlines trying to compete in Canada--from a financial standpoint, not from that of a consumer. Obviously anything that reduces competition is good for investors and bankers of the surviving carriers but not for the traveling public.
I do predict that eventually there will be some sort of tie-up between Porter and WestJet as well.
Hmmm... Porter is like what WS used to be like. hmm... that's a topic for another thread.
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The other day, I thought the reports of a merger between F8 and Y9 was crazy since they were saying the airline that can't pay its leases would be taking over the other one. But with this news, it makes a lot more sense that F8 would have been the one doing the taking over if it had gone through.
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Yup, We just got the following email;
Your flight has been cancelled
Hello ,
Booking Reference Code:
We’re sorry to inform you that your upcoming flight from YYZ to TPA on 04-Mar-2024 07:00 has been cancelled as Lynx Air will cease operations as of 12:01 a.m. Monday, February 26. As a result, we are unable to re-accommodate you on an alternate flight.
We ask that you contact your credit card company to request a refund. Please note: our contact centre is not able to assist with refunds.
It is with a heavy heart we leave the skies. We hope in our absence that our vision to Inspire More Canadians to Fly leaves it’s mark on our passengers.
Thankfully I was able to book us on a flight with similar times using our AirMiles with an out of pocket expense (taxes) of $50. less than our Lynx flight. We will arrive 3 minutes later than the original Lynx flight. Now hopefully our Mastercard will refund us as it appears Lynx is not.
Your flight has been cancelled
Hello ,
Booking Reference Code:
We’re sorry to inform you that your upcoming flight from YYZ to TPA on 04-Mar-2024 07:00 has been cancelled as Lynx Air will cease operations as of 12:01 a.m. Monday, February 26. As a result, we are unable to re-accommodate you on an alternate flight.
We ask that you contact your credit card company to request a refund. Please note: our contact centre is not able to assist with refunds.
It is with a heavy heart we leave the skies. We hope in our absence that our vision to Inspire More Canadians to Fly leaves it’s mark on our passengers.
Thankfully I was able to book us on a flight with similar times using our AirMiles with an out of pocket expense (taxes) of $50. less than our Lynx flight. We will arrive 3 minutes later than the original Lynx flight. Now hopefully our Mastercard will refund us as it appears Lynx is not.
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Thankfully I was able to book us on a flight with similar times using our AirMiles with an out of pocket expense (taxes) of $50. less than our Lynx flight. We will arrive 3 minutes later than the original Lynx flight. Now hopefully our Mastercard will refund us as it appears Lynx is not.
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The other day, I thought the reports of a merger between F8 and Y9 was crazy since they were saying the airline that can't pay its leases would be taking over the other one. But with this news, it makes a lot more sense that F8 would have been the one doing the taking over if it had gone through.
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Lynx owns no aircraft - all of its planes are leased (as are three engines). By filing for CCAA, it has defaulted on its leases. CCAA prevents creditors, including lessors, from enforcing security while the company comes up with a plan, so there won't be any sudden aircraft seizures like what Flair went through last year. But the lessors will have to be on board with whatever the deal is, so if Lynx has any sweetheart leases, it can't just sell those to someone else (not that it could necessarily do that before insolvency either). As for pilots, they're free to work anywhere. If Flair could absorb them all right away, it could just go out and hire them. As could WS and AC. It's slightly easier to bring them all in by acquiring their employer, but it only has so much value.
There may be a transaction here where Flair assumes the leases and some other obligations and Lynx's other creditors get some value out of it - Indigo has put in US$15MM (over C$20MM) so far this year, with another C$1MM of interim financing for the CCAA, and they're not dummies - but there are going to be some substantial losses for creditors here.
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Just called RBC and they said they cannot initate chargeback until 9 March - ask me to call back again on that day.
It's weird that I haven't heard anything from the government or from Trudeau - perhaps they are also caught off guard or just presuming Flair might buy them but in the end Flair walks away.
It's weird that I haven't heard anything from the government or from Trudeau - perhaps they are also caught off guard or just presuming Flair might buy them but in the end Flair walks away.