why is ET 834 WDH-ADD an hour longer after April 1?
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why is ET 834 WDH-ADD an hour longer after April 1?
Why is ET 834 WDH-ADD flight time 5hours 50 minutes duration prior to April 1, 2021 and 6hours 50 minutes duration after April 1? Why is that flight taking an hour longer to fly? The extra hour is causing all TATL ADD flights to North America have less than 1 hour connections times at ADD.
Can someone explain why ET is doing this? My connection time is only 30 minutes and I am concerned I may not make it even though I am ticketed.
Can someone explain why ET is doing this? My connection time is only 30 minutes and I am concerned I may not make it even though I am ticketed.
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Why is ET 834 WDH-ADD flight time 5hours 50 minutes duration prior to April 1, 2021 and 6hours 50 minutes duration after April 1? Why is that flight taking an hour longer to fly? The extra hour is causing all TATL ADD flights to North America have less than 1 hour connections times at ADD. Can someone explain why ET is doing this? My connection time is only 30 minutes and I am concerned I may not make it even though I am ticketed.
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Take off time from WDH is the same in every month, it is the landing time at ADD that is different after April 1 through the rest of the months now showing as available to book.
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[KVS Tool 9.9.6/Diamond - Timetable]
Code:
WDH Windhoek Hosea Kutako Intl NA [FYWH] ADD Addis Ababa Bole ET [HAAB] MON 29 Mar 2021 - 04 Apr 2021 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Meals | Miles Kms | Codeshare --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- ET 834 WDH 14:30 ADD 21:20 788 0 1------ 05:50 2 L 2613 4205 ET 834 WDH 14:30 ADD 22:20 77L 0 --3-5-7 06:50 2 L 2613 4205 SW 729 WDH 17:30 JNB 19:15 319 0 1234567 10:55 724 1165 -> ET 858 JNB 23:00 ADD 05:25 +1 788 0 A 2 D 2530 4072 SW 727 WDH 17:35 JNB 19:20 319 0 --3---- 10:50 724 1165 -> ET 858 JNB 23:00 ADD 05:25 +1 788 0 A 2 D 2530 4072
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Indeed, someone probably forgot that ET does not observe DST when updating the schedule for the new A/C type:
[KVS Tool 9.9.6/Diamond - Timetable]
[KVS Tool 9.9.6/Diamond - Timetable]
Code:
WDH Windhoek Hosea Kutako Intl NA [FYWH] ADD Addis Ababa Bole ET [HAAB] MON 29 Mar 2021 - 04 Apr 2021 Carrier Flight From Depart To Arrive A/C St Frequency | Dur'n | Dep T | Arr T | Meals | Miles Kms | Codeshare --------- ------ ---- -------- ---- -------- --- -- ------------------------------------------------------------------- ET 834 WDH 14:30 ADD 21:20 788 0 1------ 05:50 2 L 2613 4205 ET 834 WDH 14:30 ADD 22:20 77L 0 --3-5-7 06:50 2 L 2613 4205 SW 729 WDH 17:30 JNB 19:15 319 0 1234567 10:55 724 1165 -> ET 858 JNB 23:00 ADD 05:25 +1 788 0 A 2 D 2530 4072 SW 727 WDH 17:35 JNB 19:20 319 0 --3---- 10:50 724 1165 -> ET 858 JNB 23:00 ADD 05:25 +1 788 0 A 2 D 2530 4072
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So what does this mean? At some point will ET change the flight arrival and duration time of ET 834 or does it actually take an hour longer with the different aircraft. Is there anyway to be notified if this happens? Who will let ET know they have a major schedule glitch I their system, who is paying attention at ET? Then I could get back to the US on ET 574 ADD-ORD that connects with UA 2438 ORD-MCI, total travel time of 30h45m. This is the routing ticket I had for September before I postponed the trip to May 2021 as going to Namibia this year wasn't going to happen since the border is still closed to international flights.
Schedules for ET are normally loaded 11-12 months out, so schedule changes are not uncommon for the first few weeks after release. I would guess COVID issues will only add to this in the months that follow, so you may need to get comfortable with a bit of ambiguity for a flight that is scheduled 11 months from now. A wait and see approach for a few months or so may be needed.
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As b_magee said, just be patient. This is ET. This kinda stuff happens more often than not. It will be fine in the end.
Since this is S21 schedule, I will guess they will spot it sometime in September or October when they are filing their SC147 filings.
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You can tell ET this till you are blue in the face but they will insist they are correct. Until the one or two people who actually know what is going on notice it and fix it. Maybe tomorrow, maybe six months from now. It will be sorted before the flight time. Sometimes even on the morning of the flight when they open checkin and realise the time is listed wrong.
As b_magee said, just be patient. This is ET. This kinda stuff happens more often than not. It will be fine in the end.
Since this is S21 schedule, I will guess they will spot it sometime in September or October when they are filing their SC147 filings.
As b_magee said, just be patient. This is ET. This kinda stuff happens more often than not. It will be fine in the end.
Since this is S21 schedule, I will guess they will spot it sometime in September or October when they are filing their SC147 filings.
Fingers crossed ET notices the glitch sooner than later. I will keep an eye on the UA award calendar for award availability on the ADD-ORD flight. BTW, this time glitch does not affect the ORD-ADD ET 575 flight, I am on it on the outbound trip to WDH. ET got the times on that flight correct.
Last edited by susiesan; Dec 5, 2020 at 11:37 am
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anyone made a 20 minute connection in ADD?
Fingers crossed ET notices the glitch sooner than later. I will keep an eye on the UA award calendar for award availability on the ADD-ORD flight. BTW, this time glitch does not affect the ORD-ADD ET 575 flight, I am on it on the outbound trip to WDH. ET got the times on that flight correct.
On May 7 ADD-WDH flight time is 4h 45 min. On May 21 WDH-ADD flight time is 6h 50 min., 2 more hours to fly the same route. This is so bizarre and just does not make sense.
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Not sure of accuracy - https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/aa...onnecting-time
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Don't assume if an airline allows ticketing that it is a "legal" connection. Many stories of passengers missing flights due to too short a connection. I'm sure someone can advise of the I - I connection minimum.
Not sure of accuracy - https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/aa...onnecting-time
Not sure of accuracy - https://www.ethiopianairlines.com/aa...onnecting-time
According to that info on ET web site, 20 minutes is not going to meet MCT for International to International. We will definitely not check luggage, will carry on. If the luggage didn't make a transfer to the Chicago flight and was to be sent the next day we would never see it again.
Why would ET show this as a bookable ticket if they are going to be leaving people behind and having to make alternate arrangements to get them to their final destination? This is the only way I can get home to Kansas City after my vacation and this potential of missing the TATL flight makes me very nervous .
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Why would ET show this as a bookable ticket if they are going to be leaving people behind and having to make alternate arrangements to get them to their final destination? This is the only way I can get home to Kansas City after my vacation and this potential of missing the TATL flight makes me very nervous .
Here's some later flights should you miss your connection: https://www.google.com/travel/flight...gl=US&curr=USD
Enjoy your trip.
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Who knows? As other posts have mentioned, patience for the updated time frame. Have a back up plan (other flights/carriers, hotel options, etc) as there are many reasons that you could misconnect and you should be prepared. What's the worst thing, you spend a night in Addis?
Here's some later flights should you miss your connection: https://www.google.com/travel/flight...gl=US&curr=USD
Enjoy your trip.
Here's some later flights should you miss your connection: https://www.google.com/travel/flight...gl=US&curr=USD
Enjoy your trip.
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Did you look at the link? It has *A carriers. I think most people on FT are willing to help but not do all the homework for you. Not sure what you want given the dismissal of the advice from all the post so far.