I have an upcoming Ethiopian flight that includes a stop (without changing planes) in the same country as my final destination. If I got off at that stop, would there be any way the airline would know I've gotten off (such that my return flight is invalidated)? I would not be checking any luggage.
Sounds like Malawi, or maybe Tanzania?
Generally they check your boarding pass as you exit the plane. If you managed to get past the gate keeper though, then it messes up the headcount for the next leg (LLW-BLZ or JRO-ZNZ for example) and will likely result in a delay for every other of your fellow passengers who flew their tickets as purchased as the flight crew attempts to figure out who is missing.
In short, don't do it.
Generally they check your boarding pass as you exit the plane. If you managed to get past the gate keeper though, then it messes up the headcount for the next leg (LLW-BLZ or JRO-ZNZ for example) and will likely result in a delay for every other of your fellow passengers who flew their tickets as purchased as the flight crew attempts to figure out who is missing.
In short, don't do it.
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Generally they check your boarding pass as you exit the plane. If you managed to get past the gate keeper though, then it messes up the headcount for the next leg (LLW-BLZ or JRO-ZNZ for example) and will likely result in a delay for every other of your fellow passengers who flew their tickets as purchased as the flight crew attempts to figure out who is missing.
In short, don't do it.
Yeah, it's LLW-BLZ. I generally wouldn't but I now have an urgent business meeting in Lilongwe and Ethiopian will not allow a 'voluntary' change in my ticket. Originally Posted by dvs7310
Sounds like Malawi, or maybe Tanzania? Generally they check your boarding pass as you exit the plane. If you managed to get past the gate keeper though, then it messes up the headcount for the next leg (LLW-BLZ or JRO-ZNZ for example) and will likely result in a delay for every other of your fellow passengers who flew their tickets as purchased as the flight crew attempts to figure out who is missing.
In short, don't do it.
On other airlines, I don't recall having boarding passes checked in this scenario so I thought I'd check. It seems silly for me to be penalized for not taking a flight that I've paid for if that's my choice.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
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Not silly, it simply depends on the restrictions of the kind of ticket you originally bought. I assume that the ticket was a "cheaper" one that does not allow changes, rebooking, cancellations, you name it. So nobody penalizes you, it's just bad luck or, to be correct, bad planning.Originally Posted by acousticbiker
...It seems silly for me to be penalized for not taking a flight that I've paid for if that's my choice...
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It may seem silly to you, but you have to remember that airlines make money out of selling different levels of flexibility and different kinds of tickets to their passengers.Originally Posted by acousticbiker
On other airlines, I don't recall having boarding passes checked in this scenario so I thought I'd check. It seems silly for me to be penalized for not taking a flight that I've paid for if that's my choice.
They can't just then turn around and let anyone with an inflexible ticket make changes as the pax wishes (or, with a semi-flexible or flexible ticket, unilaterally make changes without first advising the airline including paying change fees where necessary).
Ultimately, everyone gets the same seat on the same plane, but the tickets are all different.
Your onward flight sectors will be cancelled if you skip any part of the ticket. You also face the prospect of being billed for the journey you actually flew - and one-way tickets are often priced surprisingly high, particularly when "bought" on the day of travel!
If you really must leave the plane at this point, then you must do whatever you can in advance to change your ticket to allow this.
Some people may recommend feigning illness or some other calamity that would perhaps persuade the staff to deboard you there, but this would then likely involve the crew determining whether it was better to deboard you or let you continue your journey [where better facilities to treat the illness may be available], and any deboarding would then require you to seek medical assistance with the airline/airport's staff looking after you there - and you would have to stick around so that the ticket desk could rebook you on the next available/suitable flight and make sure your ticket isn't automatically cancelled - so certainly not a situation that simply allows you to slink off and do whatever you have to do. Don't lie to the airline!
If it really is an urgent business meeting, then get your employer/client (or yourself, if you work for yourself!) to buy new tickets to cover this change of plans.
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They can't just then turn around and let anyone with an inflexible ticket make changes as the pax wishes (or, with a semi-flexible or flexible ticket, unilaterally make changes without first advising the airline including paying change fees where necessary).
Ultimately, everyone gets the same seat on the same plane, but the tickets are all different.
Your onward flight sectors will be cancelled if you skip any part of the ticket. You also face the prospect of being billed for the journey you actually flew - and one-way tickets are often priced surprisingly high, particularly when "bought" on the day of travel!
If you really must leave the plane at this point, then you must do whatever you can in advance to change your ticket to allow this.
Some people may recommend feigning illness or some other calamity that would perhaps persuade the staff to deboard you there, but this would then likely involve the crew determining whether it was better to deboard you or let you continue your journey [where better facilities to treat the illness may be available], and any deboarding would then require you to seek medical assistance with the airline/airport's staff looking after you there - and you would have to stick around so that the ticket desk could rebook you on the next available/suitable flight and make sure your ticket isn't automatically cancelled - so certainly not a situation that simply allows you to slink off and do whatever you have to do. Don't lie to the airline!
If it really is an urgent business meeting, then get your employer/client (or yourself, if you work for yourself!) to buy new tickets to cover this change of plans.
I fly a lot, understand that airlines sell many different types of tickets, and of course don't think it's silly that I paid less for a non-refundable ticket (I work for a non-profit). What I still find silly in this scenario, however, is that I don't understand what the airline has to lose by having one less passenger for the final segment of the flight (and a passenger that paid for that part but decided not to take it). Originally Posted by irishguy28
It may seem silly to you, but you have to remember that airlines make money out of selling different levels of flexibility and different kinds of tickets to their passengers.They can't just then turn around and let anyone with an inflexible ticket make changes as the pax wishes (or, with a semi-flexible or flexible ticket, unilaterally make changes without first advising the airline including paying change fees where necessary).
Ultimately, everyone gets the same seat on the same plane, but the tickets are all different.
Your onward flight sectors will be cancelled if you skip any part of the ticket. You also face the prospect of being billed for the journey you actually flew - and one-way tickets are often priced surprisingly high, particularly when "bought" on the day of travel!
If you really must leave the plane at this point, then you must do whatever you can in advance to change your ticket to allow this.
Some people may recommend feigning illness or some other calamity that would perhaps persuade the staff to deboard you there, but this would then likely involve the crew determining whether it was better to deboard you or let you continue your journey [where better facilities to treat the illness may be available], and any deboarding would then require you to seek medical assistance with the airline/airport's staff looking after you there - and you would have to stick around so that the ticket desk could rebook you on the next available/suitable flight and make sure your ticket isn't automatically cancelled - so certainly not a situation that simply allows you to slink off and do whatever you have to do. Don't lie to the airline!
If it really is an urgent business meeting, then get your employer/client (or yourself, if you work for yourself!) to buy new tickets to cover this change of plans.
In any case, thanks for the thoughts but I see that there aren't any other suggestions here.
Indeed. But airlines don't price solely on distance covered; in many cases, the longer/non-direct route must be sold cheaper than the direct, non-stop service. And in any particular cabin, the person who paid the highest fare may have paid a rate many multiples that of the person who paid the lowest fare. Such a construct can only be maintained if the "extras" (flexibility, for example) that entice people to pay so much more than others for what is esentially the exact same experience (regardless of whether you have the cheapest APEX fare, or bought a full-fare last-minute rate on the day of departure, you end up sitting in the same type of seat on the same plane and receive the same on-board service) - is the ability for them to make the sort of changes to their travel that you now wish to do with your inflexible ticket.
If every ticket becomes flexible - just because - then no-one will pay for that flexibility. Or else, all tickets will have to be sold at higher prices, to account for the flexibility sold with each.
That the plane stops where you now need to be is just coincidence - but, of course, if instead you needed to be in some other place at this time, you wouldn't now be asking if you could step onto a different plane bound for this other destination using this original ticket. Your ticket is good for the stated destination - not for anywhere else (regardless of whether the plane passes through there, or not). The airline asks this of you: to fly all sectors of your ticket, as booked, and in sequence, and completely; if you do not keep to this, then the ticket becomes invalid and is cancelled without refund. This would, of necessity, mean that they will not want to allow you to disembark at the stopover point (but, if you do, make sure you tell the onboard crew and be fully upfront with them, and demonstrate that you accept and realise that this means that all further travel on that ticket is cancelled).
If an airline becomes known for allowing leniency in applying ticket rules, then they will be mercilessly targetted by abusers. Airlines operate on wafer-thin margins as it is. Anything that would undermine them being able to enforce their own rules, or to allow pasengers to behave in ways (while seemingly logical to the genuine traveller) that circumvent the rules would be very bad for business.
If every ticket becomes flexible - just because - then no-one will pay for that flexibility. Or else, all tickets will have to be sold at higher prices, to account for the flexibility sold with each.
That the plane stops where you now need to be is just coincidence - but, of course, if instead you needed to be in some other place at this time, you wouldn't now be asking if you could step onto a different plane bound for this other destination using this original ticket. Your ticket is good for the stated destination - not for anywhere else (regardless of whether the plane passes through there, or not). The airline asks this of you: to fly all sectors of your ticket, as booked, and in sequence, and completely; if you do not keep to this, then the ticket becomes invalid and is cancelled without refund. This would, of necessity, mean that they will not want to allow you to disembark at the stopover point (but, if you do, make sure you tell the onboard crew and be fully upfront with them, and demonstrate that you accept and realise that this means that all further travel on that ticket is cancelled).
If an airline becomes known for allowing leniency in applying ticket rules, then they will be mercilessly targetted by abusers. Airlines operate on wafer-thin margins as it is. Anything that would undermine them being able to enforce their own rules, or to allow pasengers to behave in ways (while seemingly logical to the genuine traveller) that circumvent the rules would be very bad for business.
They check your boarding passes when you disembark in Lilongwe (and also when you disembark in Blantyre). There are invariably 2-3 passengers who try this sent back with their tails between their legs every flight for trying to get off at the wrong stop, either intentionally or otherwise.
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Wish they had been this vigilant when I was able to board the wrong plane in ADD. Ended up in Libreville instead of Nairobi and didn't realise until 30min before landing Originally Posted by B747-437B
They check your boarding passes when you disembark in Lilongwe (and also when you disembark in Blantyre). There are invariably 2-3 passengers who try this sent back with their tails between their legs every flight for trying to get off at the wrong stop, either intentionally or otherwise.

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You just went into a plane, at the wrong gate? Well, it takes two to tango... Originally Posted by kq747
Wish they had been this vigilant when I was able to board the wrong plane in ADD. Ended up in Libreville instead of Nairobi and didn't realise until 30min before landing

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LOL, oops. That's a good one. Originally Posted by kq747
Wish they had been this vigilant when I was able to board the wrong plane in ADD. Ended up in Libreville instead of Nairobi and didn't realise until 30min before landing

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I have a feeling it was at one of the bus gates. The holding areas for these gates are an absolute madhouse in ADD and it's really not always clear which plane they are currently boarding. Sometimes the staff just tear the tab off the boarding pass and don't scan it into the computer until later, scanning would alert them that someone was boarding the wrong plane. I can see this happening quite easily in ADD, I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen with some regular frequency actually though I imagine in most cases it would be found out before takeoff when someone with the same seat assignment comes along.Originally Posted by KLouis
You just went into a plane, at the wrong gate? Well, it takes two to tango...
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On other airlines, I don't recall having boarding passes checked in this scenario so I thought I'd check. It seems silly for me to be penalized for not taking a flight that I've paid for if that's my choice.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
ET is pretty vigilant about checking boarding passes on multi-leg flights. The only solution I can think of if you're on a non-refundable/non-changeable ticket is to beg and plead your case at the Transit Desk in ADD (or the ticket counter if checking in there). You may have better luck on the ground in ADD than with an operator on the phone, this is the case with most airlines, airport ticketing staff have more power than call centers. Be prepared though to go to Blantyre and get a one way flight on Malawian back to Lilongwe.Originally Posted by acousticbiker
Yeah, it's LLW-BLZ. I generally wouldn't but I now have an urgent business meeting in Lilongwe and Ethiopian will not allow a 'voluntary' change in my ticket. On other airlines, I don't recall having boarding passes checked in this scenario so I thought I'd check. It seems silly for me to be penalized for not taking a flight that I've paid for if that's my choice.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
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I have a feeling it was at one of the bus gates. The holding areas for these gates are an absolute madhouse in ADD and it's really not always clear which plane they are currently boarding. Sometimes the staff just tear the tab off the boarding pass and don't scan it into the computer until later, scanning would alert them that someone was boarding the wrong plane. I can see this happening quite easily in ADD, I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen with some regular frequency actually though I imagine in most cases it would be found out before takeoff when someone with the same seat assignment comes along.
This is exactly what happened. Same gate, different buses. The flight to Libreville was quite empty and I even had 3 seats to myself. Originally Posted by dvs7310
LOL, oops. That's a good one. 
I have a feeling it was at one of the bus gates. The holding areas for these gates are an absolute madhouse in ADD and it's really not always clear which plane they are currently boarding. Sometimes the staff just tear the tab off the boarding pass and don't scan it into the computer until later, scanning would alert them that someone was boarding the wrong plane. I can see this happening quite easily in ADD, I'd be surprised if it doesn't happen with some regular frequency actually though I imagine in most cases it would be found out before takeoff when someone with the same seat assignment comes along.
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I was referring to checking BP upon boarding the aircraft. I was at the right gate, got on the wrong bus. The purser even found me to apologise saying the she was the one checking BPs in ADD but failed to notice my destination. Honestly, I was never upset about the whole affair as I was able to fly straight back to ADD and catch the last flight to NBO. It was just an extra flight which as an Avgeek is never a bad thing but I was very tired having flown BOS-ORD-IAH-DME-SIN-BOM-ADD in the three days prior (probably why I fell asleep as soon as I boarded thus missing the welcome announcements). My biggest regret is that I never claimed the miles for the extra flights Originally Posted by KLouis
You just went into a plane, at the wrong gate? Well, it takes two to tango...










