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Old Sep 27, 2017, 7:38 am
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Actually, it seems that flights currently on sale for Summer 2018 will be impacted too...

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Ryanair, Europe’s largest airline today (27 Sept) confirmed it will slow its growth this winter (Nov 17 to Mar 18), by flying 25 less aircraft (of its 400 fleet) from November, and 10 fewer aircraft (of 445) from April 2018.
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Old Sep 27, 2017, 2:31 pm
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- oh well. I guess that you should expect anything and nothing when booking (c)Ryanair. I both feel sorry for those affected - on the other hand when you pay peanuts - you do tend to get...
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Old Sep 27, 2017, 3:52 pm
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CAA taking action against them;


Britain’s Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) is launching "enforcement action" against Ryanair for failing to give customers accurate information about their rights following a wave of flight cancellations.

The regulator has asked for a meeting with the airline as part of a consultation that will last at least seven days and could take legal action for breaching consumer protection laws "if necessary".

The CAA sent a letter to the low-cost carrier explaining its decision.

It said the company falsely claimed it did not have to re-route passengers on other airlines, particularly when there are no other services available



see the rest here.... https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0927/90...ion-authority/
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Old Sep 28, 2017, 2:36 am
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Originally Posted by soy
CAA taking action against them;


Britain’s Civil Aviation Authority (CAA) is launching "enforcement action" against Ryanair for failing to give customers accurate information about their rights following a wave of flight cancellations.

The regulator has asked for a meeting with the airline as part of a consultation that will last at least seven days and could take legal action for breaching consumer protection laws "if necessary".

The CAA sent a letter to the low-cost carrier explaining its decision.

It said the company falsely claimed it did not have to re-route passengers on other airlines, particularly when there are no other services available



see the rest here.... https://www.rte.ie/news/2017/0927/90...ion-authority/
Well, it'll have a nice chat over a cup of tea and *might* take action. I won't be holding my breath considering how gutless the CAA has been at enforcing this kind of thing up until now.
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Old Sep 28, 2017, 4:13 pm
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This is a good one

http://www.itv.com/news/2017-09-28/r...internal-memo/
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Old Sep 28, 2017, 4:54 pm
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The formal letters sent to Ryanair by the CAA make interesting reading. These are on the CAA News webpage which details the action the CAA are currently taking against Ryanair:
https://www.caa.co.uk/News/CAA-exped...ng-passengers/

Direct Links to the letters (pdf files):
CAA Letter 27-September
CAA Follow-Up Letter 28-September
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 1:08 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
Ryanair are only paying out for flights cancelled with less than two week's notice, as per the regulation.
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Ryanair have just announced a new round of flight cancellations from November until March with some routes being suspended.
CAA chief executive A ndrew Haines said he was "furious" after Ryanair cancelled an extra 18,000 flights for the winter season on Wednesday - a move that will hit 400,000 customers.

" They are not making it clear to people their entitlement," Mr Haines told BBC Radio 4's Today programme.
If FR are cancelling flights more than 2 weeks out, and refunding in full, what else are pax entitled to?
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 2:36 am
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Originally Posted by shorthauldad
If FR are cancelling flights more than 2 weeks out, and refunding in full, what else are pax entitled to?
The customer - not the airline - can choose between:
- refund
- rebooking to an earlier date
- rebooking to a later date

The 2 weeks are just about compensation.
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 4:07 am
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Originally Posted by thbe
The customer - not the airline - can choose between:
- refund
- rebooking to an earlier date
- rebooking to a later date

The 2 weeks are just about compensation.
Or re booking on another airline or alternate means of travel such as trains.Ryanair has been avoiding this issue and the CAA are after them.The second letter is very strong and not the usual diplomatic CAA speak.
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 4:31 am
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Originally Posted by rapidex
Or re booking on another airline or alternate means of travel such as trains.Ryanair has been avoiding this issue and the CAA are after them.The second letter is very strong and not the usual diplomatic CAA speak.
But there is nothing in the regulation that forces them to book someone on another airline, is there?
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 5:01 am
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But there is nothing in the regulation that forces them to book someone on another airline, is there?
Yes and no. Depends on the specific case.
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 6:25 am
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But there is nothing in the regulation that forces them to book someone on another airline, is there?
The CAA thinks there is.This is the basis of their enforcement action.
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by shorthauldad
If FR are cancelling flights more than 2 weeks out, and refunding in full, what else are pax entitled to?
A choice between rerouting (not necessarily on the same date(s) if the passenger doesn't mind travelling on another date) or refund in full.
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 8:26 am
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But there is nothing in the regulation that forces them to book someone on another airline, is there?
Not in so many words, but at least the part highlighted below appears to be generally interpreted as meaning on any carrier....what does the case law say?
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Old Sep 29, 2017, 8:39 am
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Originally Posted by irishguy28
what does the case law say?
That's what I would like to know as well
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