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Old Oct 28, 18, 8:46 pm
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Lion Air flight from Jakarta to Pangkal Pinang has crashed shortly after takeoff

Seeing breaking reports about this but no details yet.

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Old Oct 28, 18, 8:47 pm
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Looks like the Sydney Herald has some info:

https://www.smh.com.au/world/asia/li...29-p50cmu.html
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Old Oct 28, 18, 9:10 pm
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Flightradar24 reporting that itís a 737 MAX 8. Delivered in August of this year. If thatís true, this would be the first accident of this model.

fingers crossed hopefully everyone is ok.

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Old Oct 28, 18, 9:17 pm
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Originally Posted by secretalcoholic View Post
Flightradar24 reporting that itís a 737 MAX 8. Delivered in August of this year. If thatís true, this would be the first accident of this model.

fingers crossed hopefully everyone is ok.
sadly local news confirmed debris has been found
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Check out Flight-Tracker playback function

It appears that the JT610 flight took off at 2321UTC and reached a maximum altitude of 5,375ft at 2326UTC while still over Jakarta. After this it continued on course for five more minutes, during which altitude seemed to fluctuate up and down until the radar return ended.

Something seems to have been drastically wrong here, seemingly climbing more slowly than usual and continuing on course rather than an immediate return.

With an almost new aircraft there can't be any maintenance issues.

Please note: header should refer to "Flight-Radar's flight tracking function".

We can but pray that there will be survivors and an explanation found.

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No sign of any survivors.
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The BBC provides more details. 😢

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-46014463
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Over 180 passengers and crew onboard, and problems from takeoff.

The aircraft had difficulties levelling out, and asked ATC to return to CGK not long after take off.

Evidently, sadly, it didn't make it.

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Very sad news
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Old Oct 29, 18, 12:26 am
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Ugh. So sorry to see this. Indonesian air safety woes continue.
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Old Oct 29, 18, 12:42 am
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Very sad to see this.

Lion Air has been expanding greatly the last 5 years, and there have been some scandals with pilots.
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Old Oct 29, 18, 12:43 am
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Apparently the plane had indications prior to flying that it was not fit to fly...

And not to be distasteful in light of this tragedy, but I'll mention what I have said before even... in certain countries, most specifically Indonesia, I always go out of my way to pay more for Garuda. I guess they do not fly every route conceivable, and surely they are not fool-proof, but I think they are called for.
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Old Oct 29, 18, 12:49 am
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It's hard not to initially point the blame to some of the apparent systemic safety issues of the operating of commercial aircraft in that region, but would be very curious to know the role of Boeing and issues with the plane that was delivered - if it was an unrecoverable fault it would be Boeing's biggest scandal in a very, very long time.
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Very very sad...
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Horrible situation for the families. Some colleagues and I were actually sitting in my office here in Indonesia talking about Lion Air about a half and hour before we heard about the crash. My heart immediately dropped when I heard about the crash.
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