Originally Posted by exwannabe
(Post 27945438)
PVG->BKK (which is a regional international in my book).
I assume they prioritize the long haul flights? Outbound flights are generally treated equally by Shanghai ATC, but are subject to flow controls on their specific routes. In the case of SE Asia, the first ~1.5 hours of the flight use the same corridor as CAN/HKG/SZX/MFM/etc, which is among the busiest in China. Flights to Japan/Korea, by contrast, are generally okay from a flow control standpoint. |
Thanks moondog.
So I can assume PVG->US is fairly safe. But I should add a risk factor into my schedule for CAN->US? EDIT: On another issue, a DL member should check the DL partner award table. China Eastern will often pay you twice as many MQMs as Southern when redeeming to a DL number. Not a trivial issue on these very long routes. |
Originally Posted by exwannabe
(Post 27945438)
PVG->BKK (which is a regional international in my book).
I assume they prioritize the long haul flights? |
Originally Posted by exwannabe
(Post 27945899)
But I should add a risk factor into my schedule for CAN->US?
Furthermore, ground stops are less common in CAN than PVG, so I would say CAN is the safest bet if you're flying to SE Asia. But a lot of people seem to contemplate backtracking via either to Japan or Korea. In such cases, Shanghai wins (if you must connect in China) because we're talking about ~4 hours less flying, which is significantly greater than Shanghai ground stops. |
Originally Posted by MegatopLover
(Post 27945961)
... But DL treats MU as a Tier 1 partner, so tons of MQM's and RDM's on offer for flying with MU.
I just recently have seen some very nice prices ex JFK pop up on the MU web site. Have not yet figured out the details as far as tacking on the ATL leg and fare basis. Do not see these on google flights (which I assume is now just a cosmetic wrapper on IATA Matrix). |
You can't book transpac F using DL miles.
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Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero
(Post 27959164)
You can't book transpac F using DL miles.
I would not pay more than about $100 O W over C for F. |
Originally Posted by exwannabe
(Post 27959149)
Also the DL MQDs on MU when on an MU ticket are huge. This normally does not matter to me as I carry a DL AMEX, but can in some cases.
I just recently have seen some very nice prices ex JFK pop up on the MU web site. Have not yet figured out the details as far as tacking on the ATL leg and fare basis. Do not see these on google flights (which I assume is now just a cosmetic wrapper on IATA Matrix). |
Originally Posted by TennisNoob
(Post 27925777)
OP I would always suggest flying the foreign carrier even if prices weren't so far. But in your case it's an no brainer.
Since your DL plat I think you should give other airlines an chance so you can come back and talk about your experience. Whether it's good or bad.
Originally Posted by lolstebbo
(Post 27849748)
If OP is fine with either spending a few hours in Taipei or flying out of NRT, though, CI would be a better option than MU or CZ.
Originally Posted by 355F1
(Post 27925528)
Flew LAX-TPE one way on an award ticket in J last month using 80k Skymiles.
New 77W with a GORGEOUS CABIN--one of the nicest J cabins I have ever been in. Service was good, food was good. I chose this flight to avoid transiting in china and will definitely try again if I need to route to Asia using Skymiles. Due to a schedule change with my return flight to HND, I was able to change to NRT w/o issue. Booked a positioning flight to TPE w/ Cathay and secured a 90k CI flight from TPE-LAX in Business... I couldn't be happier with the hard product. As mentioned above, the cabin is GORGEOUS. I flew Delta One earlier this year HND-MSP and this is just bigger/better/more. The space. I'm 6'2 and my feet were a bit cramped in DL_One, far from it here. Giant screen, decent wifi speeds, good meal, good drinks. Attentive FAs. The only thing, and I'm nitpicking here, is that I asked for another bottle of water and they offer to fill my glass as they don't have bottles to give out... Love it. Thank you all for the recs here. The TPE CI was the way to go. The only thing that I'm upset about was due to the big storm earlier, my flight into TPE was delayed and I didn't have enough time to check out the T1 CI Club as I've heard wonderful reviews on it. NEXT TIME!^^ |
Were you able to find the transit counters in TPE okay?
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Originally Posted by noah95
(Post 28394733)
Thank you all for the recs here. The TPE CI was the way to go. The only thing that I'm upset about was due to the big storm earlier, my flight into TPE was delayed and I didn't have enough time to check out the T1 CI Club as I've heard wonderful reviews on it. NEXT TIME!^^
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Originally Posted by lolstebbo
(Post 28395162)
Were you able to find the transit counters in TPE okay?
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Originally Posted by coolfish1103
(Post 28395198)
The T1 Club has now deteriorated cause CI wanted to save money and outsourced to other catering company. You didn't really miss anything other than the decoration.
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Originally Posted by noah95
(Post 28394733)
UPDATE:
Due to a schedule change with my return flight to HND, I was able to change to NRT w/o issue. Booked a positioning flight to TPE w/ Cathay and secured a 90k CI flight from TPE-LAX in Business... I couldn't be happier with the hard product. As mentioned above, the cabin is GORGEOUS. I flew Delta One earlier this year HND-MSP and this is just bigger/better/more. The space. I'm 6'2 and my feet were a bit cramped in DL_One, far from it here. Giant screen, decent wifi speeds, good meal, good drinks. Attentive FAs. The only thing, and I'm nitpicking here, is that I asked for another bottle of water and they offer to fill my glass as they don't have bottles to give out... Love it. Thank you all for the recs here. The TPE CI was the way to go. The only thing that I'm upset about was due to the big storm earlier, my flight into TPE was delayed and I didn't have enough time to check out the T1 CI Club as I've heard wonderful reviews on it. NEXT TIME!^^ I'd love to take the Korean Air ICN to ATL flight back using miles, but I cannot justify the now 95,000 SkyMiles cost for their 2-3-2 old business product, as nice as direct would be. Also, if you're -very- flexible on dates you can fly direct on business saver for 80,000 on Delta One out of Shanghai, Tokyo, or Seoul but I have a hard time flying Delta when I am more interested in trying better, interesting foreign airlines for business class. I'll probably settle on TPE-JFK, then buy a separate ticket to ATL. I am based in SE Asia mostly though, so tempting to try Air France business from SIN to LHR, or Vietnam for SGN to LHR for a totally different routing. |
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