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JetSmarter is a membership program that allows members to fly on empty legs of private jets (JetDeals) and seats on scheduled private jet shuttles (JetShuttle).
JetSmarter - discussion and experiences
Sep 13, 2018, 1:43 pm
#2266
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 469
Except, that's what JetSmarter compared itself to and marketed itself against when it was selling memberships.
"If you talk about first class, [JetSmarter] is very much an alternative," he said. The cost per seat is as low as $600 and as high as $5,000, depending on the flight and type service, Petrossov said.
“We democratized private jets, making them affordable for up to 2.5 million people who used to fly first and business class,” Petrossov said. “In the next stage, we will seek to make our prices affordable for as many as 15 million people.”
Sep 13, 2018, 3:51 pm
#2267
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: MSP
Programs: Delta PM, Marriott Plat, Hertz Pres
Posts: 3,649
Sep 13, 2018, 4:18 pm
#2268
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 469
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Sep 13, 2018, 4:35 pm
#2269
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oakland CA
Programs: DL Gold, AS MVPG, Globalist
Posts: 1,008
I think the real question is which is a better value?
1) United First at $500. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
2) Your own jet, with no TSA, going when you want it, picking you up from whatever airport you prefer, and dropping you at whatever airport you'd prefer, for $2K. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
I know which one I'd choose.
1) United First at $500. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
2) Your own jet, with no TSA, going when you want it, picking you up from whatever airport you prefer, and dropping you at whatever airport you'd prefer, for $2K. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
I know which one I'd choose.
Sep 13, 2018, 4:38 pm
#2270
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 469
I think the real question is which is a better value?
1) United First at $500. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
2) Your own jet, with no TSA, going when you want it, picking you up from whatever airport you prefer, and dropping you at whatever airport you'd prefer, for $2K. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
I know which one I'd choose.
1) United First at $500. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
2) Your own jet, with no TSA, going when you want it, picking you up from whatever airport you prefer, and dropping you at whatever airport you'd prefer, for $2K. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
I know which one I'd choose.
Sep 14, 2018, 5:35 am
#2271
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 557
I think the real question is which is a better value?
1) United First at $500. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
2) Your own jet, with no TSA, going when you want it, picking you up from whatever airport you prefer, and dropping you at whatever airport you'd prefer, for $2K. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
I know which one I'd choose.
1) United First at $500. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
2) Your own jet, with no TSA, going when you want it, picking you up from whatever airport you prefer, and dropping you at whatever airport you'd prefer, for $2K. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
I know which one I'd choose.
Sep 19, 2018, 9:58 am
#2272
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 637
I think the real question is which is a better value?
1) United First at $500. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
2) Your own jet, with no TSA, going when you want it, picking you up from whatever airport you prefer, and dropping you at whatever airport you'd prefer, for $2K. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
I know which one I'd choose.
1) United First at $500. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
2) Your own jet, with no TSA, going when you want it, picking you up from whatever airport you prefer, and dropping you at whatever airport you'd prefer, for $2K. There will be some other people on the plane in addition to you.
I know which one I'd choose.
What he describes is creating a shuttle or shared charter - you choose airports, time, and plane. While maybe that can be had for $2k in select circumstances, that really is not the rule. You are looking at 10s of thousands, often with the hope other people join your flight.
Sep 19, 2018, 10:40 am
#2273
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oakland CA
Programs: DL Gold, AS MVPG, Globalist
Posts: 1,008
@Nicoolio @dval44, if you look at the screenshot millions posted above, its $1990 for a 'CUSTOMSHUTTLE', which is the one where you a plane from the airport you want, on your schedule.
That said, I can't replicate that price right now, despite being a member. Cheapest I see on the NY/FL route is closer to $3500.
That said, I can't replicate that price right now, despite being a member. Cheapest I see on the NY/FL route is closer to $3500.
Sep 19, 2018, 12:54 pm
#2274
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 557
@Nicoolio @dval44, if you look at the screenshot millions posted above, its $1990 for a 'CUSTOMSHUTTLE', which is the one where you a plane from the airport you want, on your schedule.
That said, I can't replicate that price right now, despite being a member. Cheapest I see on the NY/FL route is closer to $3500.
That said, I can't replicate that price right now, despite being a member. Cheapest I see on the NY/FL route is closer to $3500.
Sep 19, 2018, 1:52 pm
#2275
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: Miami Florida
Posts: 1
JetSmarter a bait and switch operation.
My membership is expiring this month. I've asked Jetsmarter for a full refund as I couldn't enjoy my membership the last year the way I wanted to. And they've offered me a 12 months "new" membership for free.
I've refused and still asked for my full refund. Will sue them if they don't accept. Will join a group lawsuit with pleasure.
We have been scammed by JetSmarter. They sold us a membership with some clear benefits like free shuttle flights,.. And they even confirmed by email to members that old members will not be affected by their new plan. And as we all know, it's not the case.
I find this crazy. Meanwhile, they still send press reviews telling the world that they're growing, that they have a 3 digits extension rate,.. I'm sure that's it's 100% ......... The numbers don't add up.
We had tons of shuttles last year. Sometimes up to 20 per day between Miami and New York, now it's like few times a week. And it's the same principle with every single other shuttle. For some it's even worst as there is no avaibility at all (100% of shuttles in Europe, Russia, Middle East + some Americans routes ) Only a fool would trust what they're saying in press releases. They're scamming us + they're sending fake news.
I'm not gonna accept it.
I've refused and still asked for my full refund. Will sue them if they don't accept. Will join a group lawsuit with pleasure.
We have been scammed by JetSmarter. They sold us a membership with some clear benefits like free shuttle flights,.. And they even confirmed by email to members that old members will not be affected by their new plan. And as we all know, it's not the case.
I find this crazy. Meanwhile, they still send press reviews telling the world that they're growing, that they have a 3 digits extension rate,.. I'm sure that's it's 100% ......... The numbers don't add up.
We had tons of shuttles last year. Sometimes up to 20 per day between Miami and New York, now it's like few times a week. And it's the same principle with every single other shuttle. For some it's even worst as there is no avaibility at all (100% of shuttles in Europe, Russia, Middle East + some Americans routes ) Only a fool would trust what they're saying in press releases. They're scamming us + they're sending fake news.
I'm not gonna accept it.
Sep 20, 2018, 7:45 am
#2276
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 637
@Nicoolio @dval44, if you look at the screenshot millions posted above, its $1990 for a 'CUSTOMSHUTTLE', which is the one where you a plane from the airport you want, on your schedule.
That said, I can't replicate that price right now, despite being a member. Cheapest I see on the NY/FL route is closer to $3500.
That said, I can't replicate that price right now, despite being a member. Cheapest I see on the NY/FL route is closer to $3500.
Maybe you could do it once in a blue moon with the “pending shuttle” option, but the stars would really have to line up. And even then, you can’t pick your airport outside of a pretty small list.
Sep 20, 2018, 7:53 am
#2277
Suspended
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: New York, NY
Posts: 557
Yep and as Nicolo pointed out it is not $3500. It is $3500 *if* you have 3 friends who are also willing to pay $3500. And in that who case, are you even still picking the exact airport and time you want? Likely not unless you are traveling together anyways.
Maybe you could do it once in a blue moon with the “pending shuttle” option, but the stars would really have to line up. And even then, you can’t pick your airport outside of a pretty small list.
Sep 20, 2018, 11:12 pm
#2279
Join Date: Dec 2003
Location: Oakland CA
Programs: DL Gold, AS MVPG, Globalist
Posts: 1,008
Well more wonderful news out of JS today:
- As of today you can only use 25% of your flight credit to pay for a flight. The rest must be paid with cash.
- XOJet was bought today by VistaJet. Closes next quarter. I could be wrong, but I can't see VistaJet keeping the XOJet empty leg program.
The devaluations continue.
- As of today you can only use 25% of your flight credit to pay for a flight. The rest must be paid with cash.
- XOJet was bought today by VistaJet. Closes next quarter. I could be wrong, but I can't see VistaJet keeping the XOJet empty leg program.
The devaluations continue.
Sep 21, 2018, 3:15 pm
#2280
Join Date: May 2013
Posts: 637
Well more wonderful news out of JS today:
- As of today you can only use 25% of your flight credit to pay for a flight. The rest must be paid with cash.
- XOJet was bought today by VistaJet. Closes next quarter. I could be wrong, but I can't see VistaJet keeping the XOJet empty leg program.
The devaluations continue.
- As of today you can only use 25% of your flight credit to pay for a flight. The rest must be paid with cash.
- XOJet was bought today by VistaJet. Closes next quarter. I could be wrong, but I can't see VistaJet keeping the XOJet empty leg program.
The devaluations continue.
- I’m a member of the Vista jet empty leg program and their empties are *very* expensive. Like there was one yesterday from Tokyo to New York for $200,000. Could it be possible that Vista sees the xojet model and is happy/interested in the concept? Seems possible to me. Not likely, just possible.
They are very into prestige, but also into making money. I rode on a Vista charter several times in Asia and was not too impressed. 7/10 all around. Fine but not mind-blowing, with several hiccups.
Thought: Apple made me sign some new terms and conditions when updating the JS app. Have any unhappy members thought to go through Apple for refunds/disputes, given that payments are made through the app? just a thought - not sure if it’s viable.