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Moderators....Please back off.!
A few days I posted a topic. ( http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum95/HTML/003089.html )
I posted this at 6.12 am and by 7.58am the moderators came in and lock the thread, on the grounds of being boring.!. Well...let me say one thing ..back off.!. These forum are run by the members that contribute, if the Mpderators are goimh to be topic police after and hour what chance do we have.? The topic was relevant to me as I hade just had something stolen from a checked bag....I am going to complain to the TSA, I want to get an idea of the frequency of this type of event. The moderators closed down threads for there own reason, i think they have and are going way to far,....Back off...relax, you guys are so up tight.... If people don't want to read threads they won't...at least give me a chance to post what I want..(Freedom of speech). My post was neither offensive or off topic...why then?. I feel the moderators are going way to far and starting to spoil the content of the board...a slippery slope if your not careful. And please look at yourselves with regards to being Boring !!!!. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Ferrari: A few days I posted a topic. ( http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/Forum95/HTML/003089.html ) I posted this at 6.12 am and by 7.58am the moderators came in and lock the thread, on the grounds of being boring.!.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Ferrari: The topic was relevant to me as I hade just had something stolen from a checked bag....I am going to complain to the TSA, I want to get an idea of the frequency of this type of event.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Ferrari: If people don't want to read threads they won't...at least give me a chance to post what I want..(Freedom of speech).</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Ferrari: My post was neither offensive or off topic...why then?. </font> [This message has been edited by MatthewClement (edited 02-26-2003).] |
IMHO the moderators should only intervene in severe cases.
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The original thread was OFF-TOPIC and so is this thread.
There is a simple way to avoid closed topics: POST THEM IN THE CORRECT FORUM! As for the moderators, they are following guidelines given to them by Randy. You remember him: The guy who pays for this board! If you don't like the moderation, please e-mail Randy, don't attack the moderators. |
1. Agree with Peter42.
2. Agree with Camera Guy this thread is off-topic and does not belong here. 3. Sugguest that perhaps it might be moved to the "Only Randy Petersen" Forum? |
Ferrari....Please back off.!
Looking over Matthews comments, I think he makes a very clear "other member, not moderator" point of view about this post. I think it would be very hard for any member to connect the topic of "Theft from checked luggage" to FlyerTalk Community, given the forum's description of "The official get together page for the FlyerTalk community." Rather than blast the moderators, it might really be respectful for any member in a case like this to step forward and say "I apologize. I now realize that I made a mistake by posting an incorrect topic in the Community forum. It's nice to see that moderators. who are actually members themselves, are trying their best to make the forums on FlyerTalk easier to read for content. I'm sure that now as in the very long run, this will make my personal as well as thousnads of other members time on FlyerTalk much more productive. I must have just had an off-moment. Again, I'm sorry for my mispost." Life is full of cause and effect. I find it very strange that some members only want to analyze the effect and never assign any responsibility to the cause. As noted, thanks to Matthew for the replay.... |
People should learn the difference between "loose" and "lose" http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif
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Perhaps, Few...
In any case, lose or loose, I'm going to move this out of Community so we can stay on topic... I'm going to put this down to the Only Randy forum. He has already replied, so I really don't think he is looking for more interactive feedback, but I'll let him close it if he sees fit.... |
Sorry for getting loose and lose my words... http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/wink.gif
Of course there is some choice of each moderator to react and close/move a thread. And most of us would not close a thread that at least has some affiliation to the forum it is posted within. But this post really had nothing to do with community... BTW: Of course I didn't mean to offend the original poster, quite the opposite was intended. Thanx Matthew for your comment about that. edited for typo... [This message has been edited by ralfkrippner (edited 02-26-2003).] |
I guess it was my understanding of community.
I apoligies.... I assumed the community thread was everything else.!. |
I feel the Moderators jump in too fast on a lot of new posts. Most would die out in 24 hours or so....The boards seem to find their own way....Scott
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Ferrari, no problem. If you click onto "FT Travel" on the very top of the page you see a list of boards with more general topics. One of them is "OMNI" which is the one where you can post nearly anything not regarding Airlines. Another one is "TravelBuzz!" where maybe your original post would fit. There is also a high volume of visitors so you would get attention for your topic.
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CameraGuy, well said.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by ralfkrippner: Ferrari, no problem. If you click onto "FT Travel" on the very top of the page you see a list of boards with more general topics. One of them is "OMNI" which is the one where you can post nearly anything not regarding Airlines. Another one is "TravelBuzz!" where maybe your original post would fit. There is also a high volume of visitors so you would get attention for your topic.</font> And shouldn't have a moderator sufficient language skills to prevent mistakable statements like yours? Edited to fix HTML tags [This message has been edited by BayFlyer (edited 02-27-2003).] |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BayFlyer: And shouldn't have a moderator sufficient language skills to prevent mistakable statements like yours? </font> 1.) Should people (including Americans) make a language skill test before using the board or becoming a moderator? The most misunderstandings happen between the users on the board (and are not due to moderating a thread) and many of them speak English as their native language. 2.) Does is mean that there are no mistakable statements if there are only moderators who passed a test as described in a)? Oh no! Misunderstandings happen always No matter how fluent people speak a language. |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by MatthewClement: I think you've misunderstood. Ralf isn't a native English speaker, and I think that he was simply saying that there is no shortage of traffic on this board, so we don't need off-topic messages to make up volume.</font> <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Frome the "Volunteer Position: TalkModerator" application site: Qualifications and Skills: Ideally, a TalkModerator would: - Be familiar with the common FlyerTalk forum functions (such as posting a message, editing a post, registering, and using the Technical Help and FAQ links). - Possess a broad interest in frequent traveler programs. - Demonstrate a friendly and helpful nature. - Have a high comfort level with FlyerTalk, the topics and the personalities of members. - Be fluent in English (since that's the common language here). - Be a longstanding member of FlyerTalk (greater than 1 year). - Be familiar with, and a supporter of, the current moderation criteria. - Have the flexibility to check into FlyerTalk frequently. Moderation typically only takes a few minutes, but it's good to be able to check three or four times during the day to see what's being asked and said. - Be a traveler of some experience and knowledge. - Be willing to work for minimal miles/points while taking abuse from users. </font> [This message has been edited by BayFlyer (edited 02-27-2003).] |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BayFlyer: - Be willing to work for minimal miles/points while taking abuse from users. </font> |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by BayFlyer: Frome the "Volunteer Position: TalkModerator" application site:</font> If anything, the misunderstanding followed Ferrari's lack of fluency in English (imho.) [UBB edit] [This message has been edited by SMessier (edited 02-27-2003).] |
In my oh so humble opinion:
SMessier has hit the nail squarely on the head! |
Ralf's english ability and affable disposition have never been questioned on the KLM board http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
He would be the last moderator I would accuse of being heavy-handed! |
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by monahos: Ralf's english ability and affable disposition have never been questioned on the KLM board http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif He would be the last moderator I would accuse of being heavy-handed!</font> Ferrari posted his problem in the WRONG FORUM. Simple as that. It would not matter which of the moderators in Community closed it down -- it was the CORRECT decision IMO. I have yet to see ONE post from anyone here disagreeing with this, so where is the fuss? ------------------ ~ Glen ~ Come and visit the most ** FRIENDLY FORUM ** on FlyerTalk. No flame wars, no personal abuse, no substance abuse. Not much of anything really! |
Smessier
I understood the word community to mean the following. <font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Main Entry: com·mu·ni·ty Pronunciation: k&-'myü-n&-tE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -ties Usage: often attributive Etymology: Middle English comunete, from Middle French comuneté, from Latin communitat-, communitas, from communis Date: 14th century 1 : a unified body of individuals: as a : STATE, COMMONWEALTH b : the people with common interests living in a particular area; broadly : the area itself <the problems of a large community> c : an interacting population of various kinds of individuals (as species) in a common location d : a group of people with a common characteristic or interest living together within a larger society <a community of retired persons> e : a group linked by a common policy f : a body of persons or nations having a common history or common social, economic, and political interests <the international community> g : a body of persons of common and especially professional interests scattered through a larger society <the academic community> 2 : society at large 3 a : joint ownership or participation <community of goods> b : common character : LIKENESS <community of interests> c : social activity : FELLOWSHIP d : a social state or condition </font> I think its because we are peace loving free speaking people that have a grip on life. And for that reason I posted in the community forum, right or wrong, this is not real life and most of you need to take a step back from FT now and again. I understand why ralfkrippner pulled it, though I feel it would have been easier to move it. I have apoligies to ralfkrippner and he accepted my apoligy. I consider this a closed item. I am aware that some people on FT have the intent to drag things on to cause more of a reaction. Those are known to themselves. I don't really care who can speak english or not, it is totally irrelevant to FT. Ozstamps does not even warrant a reply. [This message has been edited by Ferrari (edited 02-28-2003).] |
Edited in the interest of avoiding more "clarifications." http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif
Sebastien [This message has been edited by SMessier (edited 02-28-2003).] |
It sounds like everyone's clear now on the forum and the miscommunication, and the initial people involved have both apologized.
That's a great outcome if we can avoid any more "clarifications." http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/smile.gif If any forum needs to be self-moderated, it's this one, since we lost it once before. If Randy has to close threads here, surely it won't take many to lose it again. Thanks |
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