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serfty Aug 16, 2009 11:56 pm

The rules state the following:

  1. Rebooking/Rerouting
    1. Prior to departure
      1. Origin TC1
        1. After ticket issuance - changes to the first international flight and preceding flights are not permitted less than seven days prior to the date of the first ticketed flight. Date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory changes to other flights permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
        2. Changes other than to Date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory permitted at a charge of USD125.00 per transaction.
      2. Origin TC2/3
        1. After ticket issuance - date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
        2. Changes other than to Date/time/oneworld carrier/inventory permitted at a charge of USD125.00 per transaction.


danger Aug 18, 2009 6:24 am

In January or February of this year I successfully changed the first flight on a DONE4. AA insisted it wasn't possible but I insisted they direct me to the relevant section of the technical rule sheet for the oneworld explorer fare. They couldn't.

henkybaby Aug 19, 2009 3:37 pm


Originally Posted by danger (Post 12242516)
In January or February of this year I successfully changed the first flight on a DONE4. AA insisted it wasn't possible but I insisted they direct me to the relevant section of the technical rule sheet for the oneworld explorer fare. They couldn't.

Strange, since AA showed me the relevant section without hesitation. It is in their rule sheet, in CX's rule sheet and in BA's rule sheet. Guess you lucked out.

Of course if you change the flight within a period where there is no price increase the reissue against current prices does not make any difference.

danger Aug 19, 2009 6:22 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 12251069)
Guess you lucked out.

Or lucked in.

When I made the change I had a thorough look at the technical rule sheet and didn't see a rule prohibiting such a change. Admittedly, it the change was only delaying travel by one day on one flight but still a change nonetheless.

henkybaby Aug 20, 2009 10:33 am

Trust me, it is there. There are two rule sheets by the way. The one published on the OneWorld website and the one by the issuing airline. The latter states the reissue first segment situation.

To illustrate: when CX made me miss my first flight of an DONE5 they had to reissue themselves against the new rate and reimburse me for the difference in order to stick to IATA rules. Silly, but true. (Money never changed hands, but my ticket does have the new price etc).

anabolism Aug 20, 2009 1:41 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 12255140)
To illustrate: when CX made me miss my first flight of an DONE5 they had to reissue themselves against the new rate and reimburse me for the difference in order to stick to IATA rules. Silly, but true. (Money never changed hands, but my ticket does have the new price etc).

AA reissued a DONEx ticket without charge for me when CX cancelled the first flight. The AA agent noted that the reissue was due to a schedule change and didn't even have to go through the tariff desk.

danger Aug 20, 2009 8:30 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 12255140)
Trust me, it is there. There are two rule sheets by the way. The one published on the OneWorld website and the one by the issuing airline. The latter states the reissue first segment situation.

To illustrate: when CX made me miss my first flight of an DONE5 they had to reissue themselves against the new rate and reimburse me for the difference in order to stick to IATA rules. Silly, but true. (Money never changed hands, but my ticket does have the new price etc).

Okay, I trust you. However, I don't believe it was in the rules (or at least explicitly clear) when I made my change earlier this year.

henkybaby Aug 22, 2009 8:06 am

It has always been there as far as I know. Obviously the rule only kicks in when there actually is a price difference. Maybe if the difference is not so substantial they don't charge you? In my case the price difference was over $800,-.

And again: it is not in the ruile sheet on OW but the specific sheet from the airline. I posted a link to one in an earlier reply (#14) to this topic.

2old4coach Aug 22, 2009 12:40 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 12255140)
Trust me, it is there. There are two rule sheets by the way. The one published on the OneWorld website and the one by the issuing airline. The latter states the reissue first segment situation.

To illustrate: when CX made me miss my first flight of an DONE5 they had to reissue themselves against the new rate and reimburse me for the difference in order to stick to IATA rules. Silly, but true. (Money never changed hands, but my ticket does have the new price etc).

I have recently changed the departure date of a Aone4. The ticket WAS reissued but NOT repriced. I did not change the routing.

henkybaby Aug 22, 2009 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by 2old4coach (Post 12265972)
I have recently changed the departure date of a Aone4. The ticket WAS reissued but NOT repriced. I did not change the routing.

Was there a price difference?

If there was, I don't know what to tell you. The rules are clear but clearly not alwasy applied. The link to the rule sheet is in reply 14.

2old4coach Aug 22, 2009 6:44 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 12266181)
Was there a price difference?

If there was, I don't know what to tell you. The rules are clear but clearly not alwasy applied. The link to the rule sheet is in reply 14.

No change in price. I did the same with another Aone4 last year no change in price.

2old4coach Aug 22, 2009 6:46 pm


Originally Posted by henkybaby (Post 12266181)
Was there a price difference?

If there was, I don't know what to tell you. The rules are clear but clearly not alwasy applied. The link to the rule sheet is in reply 14.

Here is the rule sheet:

http://www.oneworld.com/content/libr...rule_sheet.pdf

Dave Noble Aug 22, 2009 7:05 pm


Originally Posted by 2old4coach (Post 12267266)
No change in price. I did the same with another Aone4 last year no change in price.

If there has been no change to the fares , then a repricing will just reprice the same as before so no impact; does't provide anything substantive to the repricing on a rebooking of the 1st flight

Dave

anabolism Aug 22, 2009 7:26 pm


Originally Posted by 2old4coach (Post 12265972)
I have recently changed the departure date of a Aone4. The ticket WAS reissued but NOT repriced. I did not change the routing.

Who issued the ticket originally, and who reissued it? AA RTW desk both times?


Originally Posted by 2old4coach (Post 12267266)
No change in price. I did the same with another Aone4 last year no change in price.

When you say "No change in price" do you mean no change in price to you (that is, no re-price), or that the itinerary priced the same (that is, you could purchase the same itinerary at the same price on the date of the change)?

henkybaby Aug 23, 2009 4:21 am


Originally Posted by 2old4coach (Post 12267272)

Once again: not that one, but the one in reply #14.

And I indeed meant was there a difference in price between the day you originally bought the ticket and the time you made the change to the first flight (e.g. was there a published price increase)?


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