Route Check Please
Jan 5, 2009 | 7:00 pm
#1
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Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: PER
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Route Check Please
Hi, please give me your thoughts on the validity of this route for a LONE4
AKL-SYD-PER-HKG-SEL,HKG-NRT-DFW-LAX-ORD-LAX-LHR-HEL-NRT-PER-ADL
Is the open jaw at the end permissible?
Is it permissible to stop in PER twice if the rest of SWP are transits? How is ADL treated?
Thanks, Paul
AKL-SYD-PER-HKG-SEL,HKG-NRT-DFW-LAX-ORD-LAX-LHR-HEL-NRT-PER-ADL
Is the open jaw at the end permissible?
Is it permissible to stop in PER twice if the rest of SWP are transits? How is ADL treated?
Thanks, Paul
Jan 5, 2009 | 7:08 pm
#2
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Join Date: Oct 1999
Location: Juneau, Alaska.
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Hi, please give me your thoughts on the validity of this route for a LONE4
AKL-SYD-PER-HKG-SEL,HKG-NRT-DFW-LAX-ORD-LAX-LHR-HEL-NRT-PER-ADL
Is the open jaw at the end permissible?
Is it permissible to stop in PER twice if the rest of SWP are transits? How is ADL treated?
Thanks, Paul
AKL-SYD-PER-HKG-SEL,HKG-NRT-DFW-LAX-ORD-LAX-LHR-HEL-NRT-PER-ADL
Is the open jaw at the end permissible?
Is it permissible to stop in PER twice if the rest of SWP are transits? How is ADL treated?
Thanks, Paul
(c) Travel may originate at any point for which fares are published and must terminate at the same point,
except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows
(a) within the country of origin
(b) within the Middle East
(c) between the United States and Canada
(d) between HKG and China
(e) between Malaysia and SIN
(f) within Africa
except that origin-destination surface segments are permitted as follows
(a) within the country of origin
(b) within the Middle East
(c) between the United States and Canada
(d) between HKG and China
(e) between Malaysia and SIN
(f) within Africa
Jan 5, 2009 | 7:49 pm
#4
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No, just change your original routing to AKL-SYD-PER-HKG-SEL,HKG-NRT-DFW-LAX-ORD-LHR-HEL-NRT-PER-ADL-AKL (unless QF has dropped ADL-AKL service recently in which case I suppose you could have a surface segment ADL-MEL and fly MEL-AKL). And you just might have a flat tire on the way to the airport and miss that flight to AKL.
Jan 5, 2009 | 8:04 pm
#6
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No, just change your original routing to AKL-SYD-PER-HKG-SEL,HKG-NRT-DFW-LAX-ORD-LHR-HEL-NRT-PER-ADL-AKL (unless QF has dropped ADL-AKL service recently in which case I suppose you could have a surface segment ADL-MEL and fly MEL-AKL). And you just might have a flat tire on the way to the airport and miss that flight to AKL.
Jan 5, 2009 | 8:36 pm
#7
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Unless I can't count any more then AKL-SYD-PER-HKG-SEL,HKG-NRT-DFW-LAX-ORD-LHR-HEL-NRT-PER-ADL,MEL-AKL would still only be 16 segments, and the 4 per continent limit is on flight segments, so I think that is OK.
Jan 5, 2009 | 8:59 pm
#8
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Yep sorry my bad reading I hadn't notice that Jerry had removed my ORD-LAX flight (which works OK for me anyway).
Do others concur with Christep on the 4 flights segments plus a ground leg being OK in SWP?? I'm hoping so as this will be a great solution for me.
Do others concur with Christep on the 4 flights segments plus a ground leg being OK in SWP?? I'm hoping so as this will be a great solution for me.
Jan 5, 2009 | 9:57 pm
#10
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Beautiful!
I need to commence this LONE4 next week (Wed). I assume that the rulle allowing booking and ticketing within 7 days is still good?
I want this on AA stock - would the recommended process be to call the AA RTW desk to book and have them send to Australia (mindpearl) for issue and payment in NZ$'s?
Thanks for all the help. (This gets me to SEL to commence a DONE4. Surprisingly difficult to get a reasonable airfare to SEL from Oz so figured that might as well do it via an LONE4)
I need to commence this LONE4 next week (Wed). I assume that the rulle allowing booking and ticketing within 7 days is still good?
I want this on AA stock - would the recommended process be to call the AA RTW desk to book and have them send to Australia (mindpearl) for issue and payment in NZ$'s?
Thanks for all the help. (This gets me to SEL to commence a DONE4. Surprisingly difficult to get a reasonable airfare to SEL from Oz so figured that might as well do it via an LONE4)
Jan 5, 2009 | 10:57 pm
#12
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To book on AA you can:
1) use the oneworld booking tools have an AA flight number as you first segemnt or
2) look at the following AFF thread: http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/comm...esk-12473.html
To summarize the process and include what I have learned in relation to booking XoNEx's from Oz is to follow this process (Substitue NZ for Oz as appropriate):
1) use the oneworld booking tools have an AA flight number as you first segemnt or
2) look at the following AFF thread: http://www.frequentflyer.com.au/comm...esk-12473.html
To summarize the process and include what I have learned in relation to booking XoNEx's from Oz is to follow this process (Substitue NZ for Oz as appropriate):
- Prepare a list of each exact flight you wish to book, using seatcounter.com (or other tool) to ensure the availability of L class.
- Veryify the booking using MileageMonkey (oneworld explorer validator)
- Call AA Around the World (ATW) booking desk
- Tell them you wish to book an economy class oneworld Explore fare starting from Australia and wish to pay for it and ticket it in Australia.
- Advise your segments, they will book them, offer advice and otherwise assist.
- When complete, they will send it to AA in Ireland for pricing, this may take a day.
- In any case obtain the AA Sabre booking reference code.
- Check this booking on AA.com for errors and if there are any, call thr ATW desk to advise and fix.
- A day later call the ATW desk again, armed with your booking reference, they should by now have this priced in Australian Dollars.
- Note the amount, thank them and advise you will call AA in Australia to arrange ticketing.
- Call AA in Australia to arrange ticketing; you will be charged in Australian Dollars.
- You will be emailed an cc authorization for, you fill this out and fax it to the number specified.
- Your CC will be billed and the booking ticketed, E-ticket receipts will arrive in the mail soon after.
Last edited by serfty; Jan 5, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Jan 6, 2009 | 12:38 am
#14
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Thanks serfty. I suspect I may be booking via the AA RTW although will give the online tool a cursory bash.
Interestingly I can't find anything about the AA routes from SEL. SEL is not even listed on AA's pdf timetable and EF shows nothing as well. Only place to see any route seems to be via the Korean aA site??
Interestingly I can't find anything about the AA routes from SEL. SEL is not even listed on AA's pdf timetable and EF shows nothing as well. Only place to see any route seems to be via the Korean aA site??
Jan 6, 2009 | 12:43 am
#15
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11 Call AA in Australia to arrange ticketing; you will be charged in Australian Dollars.
12 You will be emailed an cc authorization for, you fill this out and fax it to the number specified.
13 Your CC will be billed and the booking ticketed, E-ticket receipts will arrive in the mail soon after.
11 Call AA in Australia to arrange ticketing; you will be charged in Australian Dollars.
12 You will be emailed an cc authorization for, you fill this out and fax it to the number specified.
13 Your CC will be billed and the booking ticketed, E-ticket receipts will arrive in the mail soon after.