Optimised xONEx Routings with 16 segments
Oct 1, 2008 | 3:41 pm
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Optimised xONEx Routings with 16 segments
Hi Guys,
I've tried doing a number of searches for optimised DONE4/AONE4 routings with the new 16 segment rule, but have been unable to find any (except plenty of 20 segment routings).
Going through a few routings myself for a 16 segment AONE4 and with a routing that I want I managed 55,931 miles and 2570 SC's on QF:
AKL-SYD-HKG-LAX-ORD-LAX-BOS-DFW-SFO-DFW-EZE-LHR-MCT-LHR-SYD-MEL-AKL
I know this is not fully optimised for QF as I'm pretty sure that I've seen a number of AONE4's with over 3000 SC's. If there is indeed a thread already on this that I've stupidly missed then I apologise profusely.
Thought this would be an interesting thread where people can post their optimised routings under the new 16 segment rule.
I've tried doing a number of searches for optimised DONE4/AONE4 routings with the new 16 segment rule, but have been unable to find any (except plenty of 20 segment routings).
Going through a few routings myself for a 16 segment AONE4 and with a routing that I want I managed 55,931 miles and 2570 SC's on QF:
AKL-SYD-HKG-LAX-ORD-LAX-BOS-DFW-SFO-DFW-EZE-LHR-MCT-LHR-SYD-MEL-AKL
I know this is not fully optimised for QF as I'm pretty sure that I've seen a number of AONE4's with over 3000 SC's. If there is indeed a thread already on this that I've stupidly missed then I apologise profusely.
Thought this would be an interesting thread where people can post their optimised routings under the new 16 segment rule.
Oct 1, 2008 | 4:38 pm
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Do you realize that you are touching 5 continents?
North Am, South Am, Europe, Asia, SWP
Usually if you wish to optimize USA, it is good to arrive on east coast if coming from west (NRT-JFK) and depart form west coast (LAX-LHR) That could give you some extra mileage.
For AONE4 you have to drop one continent though... Be creative
Edit: You are limited to: SWP-Africa-EUR-NA/SA-SWP or SWP-Asia-EUR-NA/SA-SWP as you cannot skip Asia/Africa even if taking direct EUR-Australia flight
Edit: Also I suggest utilizing this rule:
North Am, South Am, Europe, Asia, SWP
Usually if you wish to optimize USA, it is good to arrive on east coast if coming from west (NRT-JFK) and depart form west coast (LAX-LHR) That could give you some extra mileage.
For AONE4 you have to drop one continent though... Be creative
Edit: You are limited to: SWP-Africa-EUR-NA/SA-SWP or SWP-Asia-EUR-NA/SA-SWP as you cannot skip Asia/Africa even if taking direct EUR-Australia flight
Edit: Also I suggest utilizing this rule:
Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except
as follows:
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is a transfer without stopover or on direct single plane service
between the Southwest Pacific and Europe.
as follows:
2. Two permitted in Asia when one is a transfer without stopover or on direct single plane service
between the Southwest Pacific and Europe.
Last edited by JanoSicek; Oct 1, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Oct 1, 2008 | 4:46 pm
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Do you realize that you are touching 5 continents?
North Am, South Am, Europe, Asia, SWP
Usually if you wish to optimize USA, it is good to arrive on east coast if coming from west (NRT-JFK) and depart form west coast (LAX-LHR) That could give you some extra mileage.
For AONE4 you have to drop one continent though... Be creative
Edit: You are limited to: SWP-Africa-EUR-NA/SA-SWP or SWP-Asia-EUR-NA/SA-SWP as you cannot skip Asia/Africa even if taking direct EUR-Australia flight
North Am, South Am, Europe, Asia, SWP
Usually if you wish to optimize USA, it is good to arrive on east coast if coming from west (NRT-JFK) and depart form west coast (LAX-LHR) That could give you some extra mileage.
For AONE4 you have to drop one continent though... Be creative
Edit: You are limited to: SWP-Africa-EUR-NA/SA-SWP or SWP-Asia-EUR-NA/SA-SWP as you cannot skip Asia/Africa even if taking direct EUR-Australia flight
Oct 1, 2008 | 8:15 pm
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Oct 1, 2008 | 10:40 pm
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I forgot to mention the optimised DONE4 routing will differ from the optimised AONE4 routing, optimised routes also vary according to which program you are trying to get status and/or miles in. What do you want?
Oct 1, 2008 | 10:56 pm
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Some examples, can probably do better.
DONE4 2150 QFF SCs SYD-NRT-DEL-NRT-DEL-NRT-JFK-DFW-SEA-MIA-BOS-DFW-LAX-LHR-MCT-LHR-SYD
AONE4 2730 QFF SCs SYD-NRT-SIN-NRT-SIN-NRT-JFK-DFW-SEA-MIA-BOS-DFW-LAX-LHR-MCT-LHR-SYD
DONE4 2150 QFF SCs SYD-NRT-DEL-NRT-DEL-NRT-JFK-DFW-SEA-MIA-BOS-DFW-LAX-LHR-MCT-LHR-SYD
AONE4 2730 QFF SCs SYD-NRT-SIN-NRT-SIN-NRT-JFK-DFW-SEA-MIA-BOS-DFW-LAX-LHR-MCT-LHR-SYD
Oct 1, 2008 | 11:39 pm
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I stupidly told my aging parents that I would sort them out with a RTW route that would sort them out status wise (ie: QF WP for a couple of years).
So it's a mixture of optimised routings plus where they want to go. But all the help on here has been great!
So it's a mixture of optimised routings plus where they want to go. But all the help on here has been great!
Oct 2, 2008 | 8:36 am
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Kiwi Flyer had asked a similar question for a DONE4 in a thread a few months ago and this was my answer:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...7&postcount=16
This could be further optimized by using a single flight number between LHR and SYD and using the free segment elsewhere.
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showp...7&postcount=16
This could be further optimized by using a single flight number between LHR and SYD and using the free segment elsewhere.
Oct 2, 2008 | 8:47 pm
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A query about the maximised AONE4 instanced above:
AONE4 2730 QFF SCs SYD-NRT-SIN-NRT-SIN-NRT-JFK-DFW-SEA-MIA-BOS-DFW-LAX-LHR-MCT-LHR-SYD
Although milage monkey says that you can fly in F from SYA-NRT on JO, I can't find any seats in F(A) on the JL website for a random selection of days in the next 6 months. Am I missing something?
Also the SEA-MIA service of AA is a codeshare operated by AS. DFW-SFO-MIA gets you the same SC and is AA operated
AONE4 2730 QFF SCs SYD-NRT-SIN-NRT-SIN-NRT-JFK-DFW-SEA-MIA-BOS-DFW-LAX-LHR-MCT-LHR-SYD
Although milage monkey says that you can fly in F from SYA-NRT on JO, I can't find any seats in F(A) on the JL website for a random selection of days in the next 6 months. Am I missing something?
Also the SEA-MIA service of AA is a codeshare operated by AS. DFW-SFO-MIA gets you the same SC and is AA operated
Oct 3, 2008 | 2:06 am
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AFAICS, there is no first class on JL (aka JO) on this route. (Same seems to apply to QF.)
Oct 3, 2008 | 10:10 am
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Does anyone know how many QFs SC's do you earn MEX-NRT? gc.kls2.com says mileage is 7004, mileage monkey says 7000.. so it's right at the threshold.
Kind of like the old KEF-LGW, it was > 1200 on gc but only credited < 1200 (LHR-KEF) distance.
Kind of like the old KEF-LGW, it was > 1200 on gc but only credited < 1200 (LHR-KEF) distance.