Advice on A class availability when using an AONEx
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Advice on A class availability when using an AONEx
I wonder if I could prey on the greater experience of my fellow FTers on an AONE I am attempting to put together? My main concern is the availability of A class seats on BA, JL and CX.
I'm looking to book a Oneworld AONE4 from MRU starting in September using 100k BA miles to get Mrs Simon50 and me there if award seats are available or pick up 2 "cheap" seats if not.
Time constraints, both of us being self-employed, means we have to split the journey up into 10 months which means we could only book everything 2 months before we start from what I understand.
The itinerary I would prefer would be:
MRU/LHR - 1 sector (or is it segment?) used (BA First) 180 BA Tier Points
LHR/AGP/LHR - 2 sectors 80 TPs
LHR/DXB/LHR - 2 sectors (BA First) 360 TPs
LHR/NRT/SIN/HKG/DPS/HKG/JFK - 6 sectors (1 BA First and 3 CX/JL FC) - 680 TPs
JFK/BGI/JFK - 2 sectors - 240 TPs
JFK/MBJ/JFK - 2 sectors - 80 TPs
JFK/BDA/JFK - 2 sectors - 80 TPs
JFK/MRU via LHR - 2 sectors (BA First) - 360 TPs
We would then start another AONE4 or 5 to get home - 180 TPs
19 sectors with 9 in FC plus 4 MFU JFK/LHR/JHR - 600 TPs giving a total of 2660 (plus 180 for MRU/LHR) earning a couple of GUF2500s.
The only time we would have time for the Far East leg would be 3 weeks over Christmas.
If it is unlikely we would be able to get many First Class seats then I would rather go for a DONE4. Based in London, where would be the most economical place to start. The UK is 7,400 ($14,800) each for AONE4 plus taxes, Mauritius is half this price.
Thanks
Simon
I'm looking to book a Oneworld AONE4 from MRU starting in September using 100k BA miles to get Mrs Simon50 and me there if award seats are available or pick up 2 "cheap" seats if not.
Time constraints, both of us being self-employed, means we have to split the journey up into 10 months which means we could only book everything 2 months before we start from what I understand.
The itinerary I would prefer would be:
MRU/LHR - 1 sector (or is it segment?) used (BA First) 180 BA Tier Points
LHR/AGP/LHR - 2 sectors 80 TPs
LHR/DXB/LHR - 2 sectors (BA First) 360 TPs
LHR/NRT/SIN/HKG/DPS/HKG/JFK - 6 sectors (1 BA First and 3 CX/JL FC) - 680 TPs
JFK/BGI/JFK - 2 sectors - 240 TPs
JFK/MBJ/JFK - 2 sectors - 80 TPs
JFK/BDA/JFK - 2 sectors - 80 TPs
JFK/MRU via LHR - 2 sectors (BA First) - 360 TPs
We would then start another AONE4 or 5 to get home - 180 TPs
19 sectors with 9 in FC plus 4 MFU JFK/LHR/JHR - 600 TPs giving a total of 2660 (plus 180 for MRU/LHR) earning a couple of GUF2500s.
The only time we would have time for the Far East leg would be 3 weeks over Christmas.
If it is unlikely we would be able to get many First Class seats then I would rather go for a DONE4. Based in London, where would be the most economical place to start. The UK is 7,400 ($14,800) each for AONE4 plus taxes, Mauritius is half this price.
Thanks
Simon
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If you start in MRU and fly to Europe then, on your return to Africa via the Atlantic, you cannot fly LHR-MRU, because the second entry in Europe rule only permits flights to certain countries in Africa:
Edited to add: if you show your segments like this MRU-LHR instead of MRU/LHR they are a little easier to read.
Originally Posted by oneworld.com
(e) Only one intercontinental departure and one intercontinental arrival permitted in each continent except
as follows:
1. ...snip
2. ...snip
3. For travel to/from or via Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania two permitted in Europe when one is a transfer without stopover between Ghana/Nigeria/Kenya/Uganda/Tanzania and another continent.
as follows:
1. ...snip
2. ...snip
3. For travel to/from or via Ghana, Nigeria, Kenya, Uganda and Tanzania two permitted in Europe when one is a transfer without stopover between Ghana/Nigeria/Kenya/Uganda/Tanzania and another continent.
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Booking is one thing but date of issue is even more important. To get 20 segments you will have to have the ticket issued before June 1, when the limit goes down to 16.
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No. If you start your trip by first going to Europe (and then Asia/SWP) then you cannot end it anywhere in Africa but in one of the countries listed. You could, if you wanted to, buy a separate ticket from one of the listed countries to somewhere else in Africa, but I am sure that is not what you are asking or interested in here.
Last edited by Viajero; Apr 13, 2008 at 6:27 am
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My main concern is the likelihood of A seats being will be available at fairly short notice.
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No. If you start your trip by first going to Europe then you cannot end it anywhere in Africa but in one of the countries listed. You could, if you wanted to, buy a separate ticket from one of the listed countries to somewhere else in Africa, but I am sure that is not what you are asking or interested in here.
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There is also one known case of BA in MRU making a mistake and allowing just what you want, but it was a mistake, so I would not count on them repeating the error.
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It's an old rule. You can easily get back to MRU if you fly MRU-JNB-Asia... or MRU-JNB-Australia... The problem is for those wanting to fly MRU-Europe-Asia...
There is also one known case of BA in MRU making a mistake and allowing just what you want, but it was a mistake, so I would not count on them repeating the error.
There is also one known case of BA in MRU making a mistake and allowing just what you want, but it was a mistake, so I would not count on them repeating the error.
Back to the drawing board.
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If you are able to change your plans and convert your eastbound itinerary into a westbound RTW things would be a little easier:
Africa-Europe-North America-Asia-Africa.
Then starting and ending in MRU becomes possible.
Africa-Europe-North America-Asia-Africa.
Then starting and ending in MRU becomes possible.
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Why would that be? You can book your ticket 1 year in advance (or 330 days in practice, because of the need to book the first flight) , and you ticket will be valid for 1 year after your first flight. So you can buy a ticket now for start in september and it will be valid until september 2009.

