Which FFP to enrol in?
#1
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Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: BOS
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Which FFP to enrol in?
A dedicated, or rather a locked-in, Star Alliance frequent flyer, I am more and more also taking flights on Oneworld carriers which I would like to credit to one single account. But which member airlines program to chose? That is why I am relying on the Oneworld experts here on Flyertalk -- thanks for your help, your guidance is appreciated.
Within the last five months, I have for example collected the following flights for re-crediting:
Beijing-Hong Kong on Dragonair (Business)
Copenhagen-London on BA (Business)
London-Boston on AA (Business)
Boston-Columbus on AA (Coach)
Delhi-Shanghai on China Eastern (Business)
Though I am not an expert, I would either say Cathay Pacific or American Airlines for I am currently based in the US; I shall relocate back to Europe in about two years. Or is there a particularly generous FFP within Oneworld, similar to British Midlands within Star?
Status on CX would grant me access to Americans Admirals Club here in the US, whereas AA does not. CX also allows me to collect miles on both AA and BA on transatlantic routes. Status on AA might give me one day automatic upgrades to First within the US.
So what is your take on all that? Once again thank you very much for your help.
Within the last five months, I have for example collected the following flights for re-crediting:
Beijing-Hong Kong on Dragonair (Business)
Copenhagen-London on BA (Business)
London-Boston on AA (Business)
Boston-Columbus on AA (Coach)
Delhi-Shanghai on China Eastern (Business)
Though I am not an expert, I would either say Cathay Pacific or American Airlines for I am currently based in the US; I shall relocate back to Europe in about two years. Or is there a particularly generous FFP within Oneworld, similar to British Midlands within Star?
Status on CX would grant me access to Americans Admirals Club here in the US, whereas AA does not. CX also allows me to collect miles on both AA and BA on transatlantic routes. Status on AA might give me one day automatic upgrades to First within the US.
So what is your take on all that? Once again thank you very much for your help.
#2

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Canada
Programs: *AG (AE), HH, FB, others
Posts: 188
A dedicated, or rather a locked-in, Star Alliance frequent flyer, I am more and more also taking flights on Oneworld carriers which I would like to credit to one single account. But which member airlines program to chose? That is why I am relying on the Oneworld experts here on Flyertalk -- thanks for your help, your guidance is appreciated.
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#3


Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Sydney, Australia
Programs: QF Gold LTG (ow Saph), HHon Silver, Marriot Gold
Posts: 3,012
General consensus around these parts is:
AA best for earn/ burn ratios
AA best for quick status (via AA Gold (OW Ruby) / Platinum (OW Emerald) challenge)
QF easiest to get top status (QF Platinum (OW Sapphire)) if flying front of the bus
however
AA won't earn on BA trans-atlantic, and some discount Y doesn't earn, and AA status won't get you into AA domestic lounges
QF has fairly average earn-burn and enforces the 4-segments on own metal rule
IMHO you are best crediting to the airline you fly the most as all airlines treat their own top tiers better than alliance and can typically only upgrade flights using that airlines points.
AA best for earn/ burn ratios
AA best for quick status (via AA Gold (OW Ruby) / Platinum (OW Emerald) challenge)
QF easiest to get top status (QF Platinum (OW Sapphire)) if flying front of the bus
however
AA won't earn on BA trans-atlantic, and some discount Y doesn't earn, and AA status won't get you into AA domestic lounges
QF has fairly average earn-burn and enforces the 4-segments on own metal rule
IMHO you are best crediting to the airline you fly the most as all airlines treat their own top tiers better than alliance and can typically only upgrade flights using that airlines points.
#4
Moderator, OneWorld




Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
Posts: 12,556
If you do an AA Plat challenge (OW Sapphire) before the end of the year you'll have status through 2/09; 100% bonus miles (on most, not all OW partners and on AS) and lounge access everywhere but in the US. AA burn rates are much better than QF's. If you're desperate for the AC you can buy a discounted membership as a Plat.
Getting CX status might take awhile; however you can use Asiamiles to upgrade on AA and BA metal as well as CX, also one way award redemptions. Best to review Asiamiles before committing however.
"Free" AA upgrades come (as a Plat) with 500-mile "stickers" (they aren't) that you earn through flying - 4 per 10K BIS miles, although you can buy more at $30 each or so. As Plat you can confirm as early as 72 hrs before flights if there's availability. SWUs (called eVIPs) only come with top tier (EXP) status. Stickers are no good on longhaul international services.
Getting CX status might take awhile; however you can use Asiamiles to upgrade on AA and BA metal as well as CX, also one way award redemptions. Best to review Asiamiles before committing however.
"Free" AA upgrades come (as a Plat) with 500-mile "stickers" (they aren't) that you earn through flying - 4 per 10K BIS miles, although you can buy more at $30 each or so. As Plat you can confirm as early as 72 hrs before flights if there's availability. SWUs (called eVIPs) only come with top tier (EXP) status. Stickers are no good on longhaul international services.
#5
Moderator, Hilton Honors



Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: on a short leash
Programs: some
Posts: 71,446
For a program in secondary alliance it sounds like it may be a struggle to maintain status, other than the bottom tier. So, I'd concentrate on earn/burn. What do you want to use miles for - awards or upgrades?
I'd be inclined to stick with AAdvantage (you'll have lounge access anyway for international business/first).
I'd be inclined to stick with AAdvantage (you'll have lounge access anyway for international business/first).
#7

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Canada
Programs: *AG (AE), HH, FB, others
Posts: 188
For a program in secondary alliance it sounds like it may be a struggle to maintain status, other than the bottom tier. So, I'd concentrate on earn/burn. What do you want to use miles for - awards or upgrades?
I'd be inclined to stick with AAdvantage (you'll have lounge access anyway for international business/first).
I'd be inclined to stick with AAdvantage (you'll have lounge access anyway for international business/first).
Chances of flying on AA are slim so, if I read the AA sticky right, the challenges are out. On long haul I'm almost always in business anyway so lounge access is not crucial. My main interest is earning/cashing miles for awards (flights). FB is my main FF program now so OW will be second choice, but I do get quite a few long trips each year - fall/winter in particular. Australia is an uncommon destination so QF is probably not a good bet. Many destinations are accessible via LHR, but since I'm already well into FB, probably it's better to stick with AMS/CDG. I'll check out Asiamiles but are there any particular drawbacks to BA?
#8

Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Canada
Programs: *AG (AE), HH, FB, others
Posts: 188
edited to add: But it looks like Alaska is not a One World member. I'm starting my One World account because of upcoming flights on Qantas and JAL.
Last edited by fishermanbob; Nov 5, 2007 at 6:21 pm Reason: more info after a bit of surfing
#9
Moderator, OneWorld




Join Date: Feb 2002
Location: SEA
Programs: RAA RIP; AA ExEXP
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AS hasn't fired up their award plan with AF yet ("any day now" for a year) but plenty of good award partners.
For comparos, go to www.webflyer.com, the birth parent of FT.
#10
Moderator, Hilton Honors



Join Date: Nov 2003
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Unless you are planning to use miles for upgrades (which in OW is mostly only own airline unlike *A), the benefit of the alliance is you (mostly) don't need to credit to the FFP of the operating airline.




