Waitlisting the first segment of a DONE4
Jul 30, 2007 | 8:02 am
#1
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Waitlisting the first segment of a DONE4
I finally called to reserve my DONE4.
To my surprise I had a problem with the very first segment SFO-ORD D class for March of next year.
Since I am connecting this with my SFO-AKL-SFO pricing error
the dates and times mattered to me.
I have looked at expertflyer and as of now AA has not sold even one first class seat.
I know there are 'special rules' for the first flight on a RTW itn [I am confused some with the rules actually].
What would you do...wait list or just forget about this segment [and buy it as part of a separate ticket]. [I need 5 A seats]
What happens if the inventory never becomes available?
To my surprise I had a problem with the very first segment SFO-ORD D class for March of next year.
Since I am connecting this with my SFO-AKL-SFO pricing error
the dates and times mattered to me.I have looked at expertflyer and as of now AA has not sold even one first class seat.
I know there are 'special rules' for the first flight on a RTW itn [I am confused some with the rules actually].
What would you do...wait list or just forget about this segment [and buy it as part of a separate ticket]. [I need 5 A seats]
What happens if the inventory never becomes available?
Jul 30, 2007 | 8:20 am
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Jul 30, 2007 | 8:57 am
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Jul 30, 2007 | 12:02 pm
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Are you an AA EXP talking toi the AA RTW desk? If so, I would expect them to free the flights up for you pretty quickly - that was certainly my experience when I was an EXP doing this sort of thing. Although that was only with one or two seats, not five!
Jul 30, 2007 | 2:04 pm
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Are all the flights sold out in A or just the one(s) flown with the 767-300? You could consider confirming on a different MD-80 flight and waitlist to the 767-300 and I bet over time everyone clears.
Steve
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Jul 30, 2007 | 5:48 pm
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Best she could do was wait list me.
Does not sound right to me...any experiences?
Jul 30, 2007 | 6:29 pm
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Another option is to get booked in L, waitlisted for A, and cross your fingers. We did this starting a DONE4 from ARN on BA (booking only a week or so in advance), and got the D seats at the airport (but are still trying to get 125% of miles on AA rather than the 25% we got because of the original L booking).
Jul 30, 2007 | 6:45 pm
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Another option is to get booked in L, waitlisted for A, and cross your fingers. We did this starting a DONE4 from ARN on BA (booking only a week or so in advance), and got the D seats at the airport (but are still trying to get 125% of miles on AA rather than the 25% we got because of the original L booking).
As far as my specific flight first class is 100% open...they are just no 'A' seats.
Jul 30, 2007 | 6:50 pm
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Jul 30, 2007 | 6:52 pm
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Jul 31, 2007 | 1:09 am
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Pity you're starting from ORD. Any changes to an xONEx are unlimited & "free" (or at least without penalty), ticketed or not - unless purchased in TC1 (N/A & S/A).
16. VOLUNTARY CHANGES/REROUTING/PENALTIES
16. VOLUNTARY CHANGES/REROUTING/PENALTIES
- Rebooking/Rerouting
- Prior to departure
- Origin TC1
- Before ticket issuance - Permitted without penalty.
- After ticket issuance -
- Changes to the first international flight and preceding flights are not permitted less than seven days prior to the date of the first ticketed flight. Date/time changes to other flights permitted at no charge.
- Date/Time/oneworld Carrier changes are permitted without reissue provided origin/destination/connecting points and inventory remain the same.
- Changes other than to Date/Time/oneworld carrier permitted at a charge of USD125.00 per transaction.
- Origin TC2/3
- Unlimited changes permitted without charge.
- Date/Time/oneworld carrier changes are permitted without reissue provided origin/destination/connecting points and inventory remain the same.
- Local service fees may apply
- Origin TC1
- After Departure
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- Date/Time changes permitted at no charge. Date/Time/oneworld carrier changes are permitted without reissue provided origin/destination/connecting points and inventory remain the same.
- Routing changes other than to Date/Time/oneworld carrier permitted at a charge of USD125.00 per transaction. If currency of ticket origin is not shown convert the USD amount at the BSR.
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- If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents or extra flight segments previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Tickets may be reissued to a higher fare, eg. from A ONE3 type to A -ONE4 type fare and the increase in fare will be collected. When flight segments are added above the free allowance, those charges will be collected. When the rerouting results in a reduction to the number of continents or extra flight segments previously charged, no refund will apply.
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- Prior to departure
Last edited by serfty; Aug 2, 2007 at 5:56 pm Reason: rationalise indents :)
Jul 31, 2007 | 8:19 am
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My first flights would be
1 SFO-ORD
2 ORD-PVG
3 PVG-HKG
The AAgent implied that CX would not need their ticket numbers until about a week before their flight [3]. So in theory changes would be permitted to 1 and 2 until then.
However, I was under the impression that once you 'receive' your tickets you are basically ticketed.
My plan would be to take L and waitlist A.