Changes to OW fares today
May 15, 2007 | 9:48 am
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Changes to OW fares today
This has just been posted at the end of a very long thread and deserves it's own one.
Changes have been made to the Oneworld Explorer fares:
Oneworld Explorer Fare Levels (AONE*/DONE*/LONE*)
* Effective 15 May 2007, introduction of fare levels ex Slovenia
* Effective 01 June 2007, increase of fare levels ex Australia, introduction of fare levels ex Sudan, changes to fare levels ex Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Israel.
Oneworld Explorer Fare (AONE*/DONE*/LONE*)
* Effective 15 May 2007, additional information relating to sectors within Europe and Middle East and the introduction of fare levels ex Slovenia
* Effective 01 June 2007, increase of fare levels ex Australia, introduction of fare levels ex Sudan, changes to fare levels ex Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Israel.
Changes have been made to the Oneworld Explorer fares:
Oneworld Explorer Fare Levels (AONE*/DONE*/LONE*)
* Effective 15 May 2007, introduction of fare levels ex Slovenia
* Effective 01 June 2007, increase of fare levels ex Australia, introduction of fare levels ex Sudan, changes to fare levels ex Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Israel.
Oneworld Explorer Fare (AONE*/DONE*/LONE*)
* Effective 15 May 2007, additional information relating to sectors within Europe and Middle East and the introduction of fare levels ex Slovenia
* Effective 01 June 2007, increase of fare levels ex Australia, introduction of fare levels ex Sudan, changes to fare levels ex Syria, Lebanon, Egypt and Israel.
May 15, 2007 | 10:27 am
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Nice in theory, but until today's post there was no activity whatsoever on the "Ultimate" sticky over the last two months. A change in OW fares needs to be highlighted, not lost on page 10 of a long, rambling sticky.
May 15, 2007 | 11:14 am
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And there weren't any changes in fares for the last two months of which I am aware.
May 15, 2007 | 11:31 am
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Don't get me wrong - I think you did exactly the right thing and I appreciate it. But otoh if someone happens to post additional information to the original thread, I'd like to know where to look for it - I almost never look at the old stickies otherwise.
May 15, 2007 | 3:41 pm
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I am not able to see any OW RTW fares ex-LJU on Amadeus. My Sabre connection is GUIed up at the moment, so maybe they're there...?
May 15, 2007 | 6:37 pm
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Here is a comparison with WearyBizTraveler's spreadsheet data and the new ex Oz prices:
Biggest % change appears to be in the LxONE's of around 3 to 6%. The DONEx's & AONEx's have all increased by just under 1%.
Code:
LLONE4 2979.00 3129.00 (AUD) LHONE4 3239.00 3309.00 (AUD) LLONE5 3499.00 3669.00 (AUD) LHONE5 3739.00 3889.00 (AUD) LLONE6 4099.00 4279.00 (AUD) LHONE6 4279.00 4529.00 (AUD) DONE4 9609.00 9699.00 (AUD) DONE5 10709.00 10809.00 (AUD) DONE6 12039.00 12159.00 (AUD) AONE4 13539.00 13669.00 (AUD) AONE5 14539.00 14679.00 (AUD) AONE6 15539.00 15689.00 (AUD)
May 15, 2007 | 8:10 pm
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This looks somwhat different:
TRAVEL MUST BEGIN AND END AT THE SAME POINT EXCEPT ORIGIN-DESTINATION SURFACE SEGMENTS PERMITTED AS FOLLOWS -
WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
WITHIN MIDDLE EAST
WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA
BETWEEN THE USA AND CANADA
BETWEEN HKG AND CHINA.
BETWEEN BANGLADESH AND BKK/SIN.
BETWEEN MALAYSIA AND SINGAPORE
WITHIN AFRICA
WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
WITHIN MIDDLE EAST
WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA
BETWEEN THE USA AND CANADA
BETWEEN HKG AND CHINA.
BETWEEN BANGLADESH AND BKK/SIN.
BETWEEN MALAYSIA AND SINGAPORE
WITHIN AFRICA
May 15, 2007 | 9:21 pm
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The only change I see there from the old star files is the addition of the word "segment" in the intro language, otherwise everything is the same.
From the 11/2006 starfile:
72N . 4. TRAVEL MUST BEGIN AND END THE THE SAME POINT
73N . EXCEPT ORIGIN-DESTINATION SURFACE PERMITTED AS
74N . FOLLOWS:
75N . * WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
76N . * BETWEEN U.S.A-CANADA
77N . * WITHIN AFRICA
78N . * WITHIN THE MIDDLE EAST
79N . * BETWEEN HKG-CHINA
80N . * BETWEEN BANGLADESH-BKK/SIN
81N . * WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA
82N . * BETWEEN MALAYSIA-SIN
73N . EXCEPT ORIGIN-DESTINATION SURFACE PERMITTED AS
74N . FOLLOWS:
75N . * WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
76N . * BETWEEN U.S.A-CANADA
77N . * WITHIN AFRICA
78N . * WITHIN THE MIDDLE EAST
79N . * BETWEEN HKG-CHINA
80N . * BETWEEN BANGLADESH-BKK/SIN
81N . * WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA
82N . * BETWEEN MALAYSIA-SIN
TRAVEL MUST BEGIN AND END AT THE SAME POINT EXCEPT ORIGIN-DESTINATION SURFACE SEGMENTS PERMITTED AS FOLLOWS -
WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
WITHIN MIDDLE EAST
WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA
BETWEEN THE USA AND CANADA
BETWEEN HKG AND CHINA.
BETWEEN BANGLADESH AND BKK/SIN.
BETWEEN MALAYSIA AND SINGAPORE
WITHIN AFRICA
WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
WITHIN MIDDLE EAST
WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA
BETWEEN THE USA AND CANADA
BETWEEN HKG AND CHINA.
BETWEEN BANGLADESH AND BKK/SIN.
BETWEEN MALAYSIA AND SINGAPORE
WITHIN AFRICA
May 15, 2007 | 10:48 pm
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So we need a full update basically. I'll start now and finish tomorrow.
Code:
U STAR ID - ONE EXPLORER
0S ONEWORLD RTW EXPLORER FARE
1N .
2N OVERVIEW
3N ---------
4N ONE EXPLORER - TARIFF - ONEWORLD RTW EXPLORER FARE
5N .
6N .
7N UNIVERSAL STAR REFERENCE
8N -------------------------
9N .
10N DATA IN THIS FILE IS CONTAINED IN THE UNIVERSAL SABRE
11N STAR N*/ONE EXPLORER, N*/ONE EXPLORER P2-P5.
12N .
13N .
14N RELATED INFORMATION
15N --------------------
16N .
17N FOR INFORMATION ON THIS FARE, PLEASE CALL THE AROUND
18N THE WORLD DESK AT 1-800-247-3247.
19N .
20N .
21N GOVERNING RULE
22N ---------------
23N .
24N .
25N . TARIFF RWR1
26N .
27N . AREA RW
28N .
29N . RULE 3015
30N .
31N . CARRIER AA A
32N . ND/O
33N . R BA
34N .
35N .
36N FARE BASIS
37N -----------
38N .
39N .
40N . AONEX DONEX LHONEX LLONEX
41N .
42N X IS THE NUMBER OF CONTINENTS.
43N .
44N .
45N APPLICATION
46N ------------
47N .
48N . 1. APPLIES TO FIRST CLASS, BUSINESS CLASS AND
49N . ECONOMY CLASS, RTW TRAVEL VIA
50N . .
51N . AA EG JO NU
52N . 4M
53N . .
54N . AY IB LA
55N . QF
56N . .
57N . BA JC LP
58N . RJ
59N . .
60N . CX JL MA
61N . XL
62N . .
63N . 2. TRAVEL ON CODESHARES OPERATED BY THE CARRIERS
64N . LISTED ABOVE IS PERMITTED. OTHER CODESHARE
65N . SERVICES NOT PERMITTED.
66N . .
67N . --------------------------------------------------
68N . -----
69N . EXCEPTION EXCEPTION 1:
70N . FOR TICKETS ISSUED ON/AFTER JULY 1, 2005, TRAVEL
71N . NOT
72N . PERMITTED ON CX BETWEEN HONG KONG AND HANOI.
73N . .
74N . 3. ALL AFFILIATE CARRIER FLIGHTS MUST BE BOOKED
75N . USING AA/BA/IB/JC/JL/LA/NU/QF/XL/4M DESIGNATORS.
76N . VIEW ONEWORLD AFFILIATE CARRIERS,ONE AFFILIATES
77N . /N*/ONE AFFILIATES/
78N . 4. TRAVEL MUST BEGIN AND END THE THE SAME POINT
79N . EXCEPT ORIGIN-DESTINATION SURFACE PERMITTED AS
80N . FOLLOWS:
81N . * WITHIN COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
82N . * BETWEEN U.S.A-CANADA
83N . * WITHIN AFRICA
84N . * WITHIN THE MIDDLE EAST
85N . * BETWEEN HKG-CHINA
86N . * BETWEEN BANGLADESH-BKK/SIN
87N . * WITHIN SOUTH AMERICA
88N . * BETWEEN MALAYSIA-SIN
89N . 5. FARES APPLY ONLY IF PURCHASED PRIOR TO
90N . DEPARTURE FROM POINT OF ORIGIN.
91N .
92N BOOKING CODE
93N -------------
94N .
95N FOR FLIGHTS WHERE NO FIRST/BUSINESS CLASS IS AVAILABLE
96N OR OFFERED, FIRST CLASS PASSENGERS WILL TRAVEL IN
97N BUSINESS/ECONOMY CLASS AND BUSINESS CLASS PASSENGERS
98N WILL TRAVEL IN ECONOMY CLASS. THE FARE FOR THE
99N HIGHEST CLASS USED APPLIES AND NO REFUND WILL BE
100N GIVEN. VIEW ONE BOOKING CODES /N*/ONE BOOKING CODES/
101N .
102N .
103N -------------------------------------------------------
104N . EXCEPTION
105N FOR SERVICES WITHIN/BETWEEN THE US AND CANADA WHERE NO
106N D CLASS IS OFFERED, BUSINESS CLASS PASSENGERS MAY BOOK
107N AND TRAVEL IN A CLASS, SUBJECT TO AVAILABILITY. THIS
108N PROVISION DOES NOT APPLY ON ANY FLIGHT WHERE BUSINESS
109N CLASS CABIN EXISTS BUT IS UNAVAILABLE FOR BOOKING.
110N .
111N .
112N FARES
113N -------
114N .
115N . 1. THE FARE PAID IS APPLICABLE WHEN INTERNATIONAL
116N . TRAVEL ACTUALLY COMMENCES IN THE COUNTRY OF THE
117N . POINT OF ORIGIN SHOWN ON THE TICKET. VIEW ONE
118N . EXPLORER FARES /N*/ONE EXPLORER FARES/
119N . 2. THE FARE TO BE CHARGED IS DETERMINED BY THE
120N . NUMBER OF CONTINENTS IN THE ITINERARY /INCLUDING
121N . THE CONTINENT OF ORIGIN/.
122N . 3. WHEN TRAVEL ORIGINATES IN A COUNTRY FOR WHICH
123N . A SPECIFIC LOCAL CURRENCY FARE IS PUBLISHED AND
124N . TICKET IS SOLD IN ANOTHER COUNTRY, THE FARE WILL
125N . BE THAT PUBLISHED FOR THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN
126N . CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY OF SALE
127N . AT THE BSR. THE RESULTANT FARE MUST NOT BE LOWER
128N . THAN FROM THE COUNTRY OF SALE, SEE MINUMUM FARE
129N . CHECK BELOW.
130N .
131N DEFINITION OF CONTINENTS
132N -------------------------
133N .
134N THE CONTINENTS AND THE COUNTRIES CONTAINED THEREIN ARE
135N DEFINED AS:
136N .
137N ------------------------------------------------------
138N I CONTINENT I COUNTRY/REGION I
139N ------------------------------------------------------
140N I NORTH I UNITED I
141N I AMERICA I STATES/CANADA/MEXICO/CARIBBEAN I
142N I I AREA/CENTRAL AMERICA/PANAMA I
143N ------------------------------------------------------
144N I SOUTH I ALL OF SOUTH AMERICA /EXCLUDING I
145N I AMERICA I PANAMA/ I
146N ------------------------------------------------------
147N I EUROPE/MIDDL I ALL OF EUROPE /INCLUDING ALGERIA, I
148N I E EAST I MOROCCO, TUNISIA/ I
149N I I ALL OF MIDDLE EAST /INCLUDING I
150N I I EGYPT, SUDAN/ I
151N ------------------------------------------------------
152N I AFRICA I ALL OF AFRICA /EXCLUDING ALGERIA, I
153N I I EGYPT, MOROCCO, TUNISIA, SUDAN/ I
154N ------------------------------------------------------
155N I ASIA I ALL OF ASIA /EXCLUDING THE SOUTH I
156N I I WEST PACIFIC/ I
157N ------------------------------------------------------
158N I SOUTH WEST I ALL OF SOUTH WEST PACIFIC I
159N I PACIFIC I I
160N ------------------------------------------------------
161N .
162N SEASONS
163N --------
164N .
165N VIEW /N*/ONE AFFILIATES/ ONE EXPLORER FARES /N*/ONE
166N EXPLORER FARES/
167N .
168N .
169N . * FIRST CLASS/BUSINESS CLASS - ALL YEAR
170N . * ECONOMY CLASS - DETERMINED BY THE COUNTRY OF
171N . TICKET ORIGIN. THE DATE OF THE FIRST
172N . INTERCONTINENTAL SECTOR DETERMINES THE APPLICABLE
173N . SEASONAL FARE FOR THE ENTIRE JOURNEY.
174N . SEASONALITY WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE COUNTRY OF
175N . COMMENCEMENT OF TRAVEL. IF THE OUTBOUND
176N . INTERCONTINENTAL SECTOR IS OPEN DATED, CHARGE THE
177N . PEAK SEASON FARE.
01MAY07 8BB7 04MAR03 537
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May 15, 2007 | 10:53 pm
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Code:
** UNIVERSAL STAR **
U STAR ID - ONE EXPLORER P2
0S ONEWORLD RTW EXPLORER FARE
1N .
2N MINIMUM STAY
3N -------------
4N .
5N TRAVEL FROM THE LAST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR MUST
6N COMMENCE NO EARLIER THAN 10 DAYS AFTER COMMENCEMENT OF
7N THE FIRST INTERNATIONAL SECTOR.
8N .
9N -------------------------------------------------------
10N . EXCEPTION
11N ORIGINATING EUROPE - TRAVEL ON THE LAST
12N INTERCONTINENTAL SEGMENT MUST COMMENCE NO
13N EARLIER THAN 10 DAYS AFTER COMMENCEMENT OF THE FIRST
14N INTERCONTINENTAL SEGMENT.
15N .
16N -------------------------------------------------------
17N . EXCEPTION
18N ORIGINATING SWP/HKG/JAPAN - FIRST CLASS/BUSINESS CLASS
19N - NONE
20N .
21N .
22N MAXIMUM STAY
23N -------------
24N .
25N RETURN TRAVEL FROM THE LAST STOPOVER POINT MUST
26N COMMENCE NO LATER THAN12 MONTHS AFTER DEPARTURE.
27N .
28N .
29N STOPOVERS
30N ----------
31N .
32N MAXIMUM 2
33N STOPOVERS PERMITTED IN THE CONTINENT OF ORIGIN.
34N .
35N NO RESTRICTION FOR STOPOVER AT POINT OF ORIGIN.
36N NO STOPOVER PERMITTED IN HONG KONG IF TRAVEL IS VIA
37N HKG-FCO
38N ON QF 3860/3861.
39N .
40N .
01MAY07 8BB7 04MAR03 208
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Code:
** UNIVERSAL STAR **
U STAR ID - ONE EXPLORER P3
0S ONEWORLD RTW EXPLORER FARE
1N .
2N FLIGHT SEGMENTS
3N ----------------
4N .
5N . 1. 3 FLIGHT SEGMENT MINIMUM REQUIRED
6N . 2. 20 FLIGHT SEGMENT MAXIMUM PERMITTED /INCLUDING
7N . FREE/PURCHASED FLIGHT SEGMENTS FOR THIS FARE/
8N . 3. FREE FLIGHT SEGMENTS WITHIN EACH CONTINENT ARE
9N . LIMITED AS FOLLOWS:
10N . ---------------------------------------
11N .
12N . I CONTINENT I NUMBER OF FREE
13N . I
14N . I I FLIGHT SEGMENTS
15N . I
16N . ---------------------------------------
17N .
18N . I AFRICA I 4
19N . I
20N . ---------------------------------------
21N .
22N . I ASIA I 4
23N . I
24N . ---------------------------------------
25N .
26N . I NORTH AMERICA I 6
27N . I
28N . ---------------------------------------
29N .
30N . I SOUTH AMERICA I 4
31N . I
32N . ---------------------------------------
33N .
34N . I SOUTH WEST I 4
35N . I
36N . I PACIFIC I
37N . I
38N . ---------------------------------------
39N .
40N . I EUROPE/MIDDLE I 4 /SEE NOTE 1./
41N . I
42N . I EAST I
43N . I
44N . ---------------------------------------
45N .
46N . --------------------------------------------------
47N . -----
48N . NOTE NO MORE THAN 2 FREE
49N . SEGMENTS BETWEEN THE U.K. AND:
50N . .
51N . .
52N . ALGERIA ARMENIA AZERBAI BAHRAIN BULGARIA
53N . CYPRUS
54N .
55N . JAN
56N . .
57N . EGYPT GEORGIA GREECE IRAN ISRAEL
58N . JORDAN
59N . .
60N . KUWAIT LEBANON MACEDON MALTA MOROCCO
61N . OMAN
62N .
63N . IA
64N . .
65N . FUNCHAL QATAR ROMANIA RUSSIA SAUDI
66N . SYRIAN
67N . , PORTU ARABIA
68N . ARAB RE
69N . GAL
70N . PUBLIC
71N . .
72N . TUNISIA UNITED UKRAINE YUGOSLAVI SERBIA -
73N . CROATIA
74N . ARAB EM A
75N . MONTENEGR
76N . IRATES
77N . O
78N . .
79N . 4. 2 ADDITIONAL FLIGHT SEGMENTS WITHIN EACH
80N . CONTINENT, EXCEPT THE CONTINENT OF ORIGIN MAY BE
81N . PURCHASED. EACH ADDITIONAL FLIGHT SEGMENT MAY BE
82N . PURCHASED AT A CHARGE OF:
83N . --------------------------------------------------
84N . ----
85N . I FIRST CLASS I BUSINESS CLASS I ECONOMY
86N . CLASS I
87N . --------------------------------------------------
88N . ----
89N . I USD $550.00 I USD $400.00 I USD
90N . $150.00 I
91N . --------------------------------------------------
92N . ----
93N . I AUD 750.00 I AUD 500.00 I AUD
94N . 200.00 I
95N . --------------------------------------------------
96N . ----
97N . I GBP 350.00 I GBP 200.00 I GBP
98N . 75.00 I
99N . --------------------------------------------------
100N . ----
101N . I HKD 4300 I HKD 3200 I HKD
102N . 1200 I
103N . --------------------------------------------------
104N . ----
105N . I EUR 450.00 I EUR 300.00 I EUR
106N . 100.00 I
107N . --------------------------------------------------
108N . ----
109N . --------------------------------------------------
110N . -----
111N . EXCEPTION MAXIMUM 2
112N . SEGMENTS TOTAL* /FREE + PURCHASED TOGETHER/
113N . BETWEEN THE U.K. AND:
114N . .
115N . .
116N . ALGERIA ARMENIA AZERBAI BAHRAIN BULGARIA
117N . CYPRUS
118N .
119N . JAN
120N . .
121N . EGYPT GEORGIA GREECE IRAN ISRAEL
122N . JORDAN
123N . .
124N . KUWAIT LEBANON MACEDON MALTA MOROCCO
125N . OMAN
126N .
127N . IA
128N . .
129N . FUNCHAL QATAR ROMANIA RUSSIA SAUDI
130N . SYRIAN
131N . , PORTU ARABIA
132N . ARAB RE
133N . GAL
134N . PUBLIC
135N . .
136N . TUNISIA UNITED UKRAINE YUGOSLAVI SERBIA -
137N . CROATIA
138N . ARAB EM A
139N . MONTENEGR
140N . IRATES
141N . O
142N . .
143N . /*PER R.RUMMELL/30APR07/
144N . 5. THE FARE CLASS OF THE PURCHASED FLIGHT
145N . SEGMENTS MAY BE LOWER THAN THAT OF THE ONEWORLD
146N . EXPLORER.
147N . 6. IF CURRENCY OF THE TICKET ORIGIN IS NOT SHOWN,
148N . CONVERT THE USD AMOUNT AT THE BSR IF CURRENCY OF
149N . COUNTRY OF ORIGIN IS NOT SHOWN.
150N . --------------------------------------------------
151N . -----
152N . EXCEPTION ORIGINATING NEW
153N . ZEALAND - CONVERT THE AUD AMOUNT AT BSR.
154N . .
155N . 7. THE CHARGE IS SHOWN AS A Q IN THE FARE
156N . CALCULATION LINE FOLLOWING THE CITY PAIR.
01MAY07 8BB7 04MAR03 198
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