LONE3 Itinerary - A Few Questions
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LONE3 Itinerary - A Few Questions
This is my first time attempting an RTW (an LONE3 in this case), and while I've made myself familiar with all the rules, etc., I thought I'd post my itinerary here in order to ask about a couple of things. The itin looks like this:
CDG-AMM-xBEY-xAMM-CDG-ORD-xSFO-DFW-xANC-DFW-xJFK-xSFO-HKG-xSIN-xBKK-xHKG-xNRT-CDG
Essentially I'm not looking to fully maximize miles in most cases (for example, I know I'm not doing so in Europe, but have to be in Beirut and want to take RJ so as to earn full EQMs.) In Asia, however, I'm flexible--the only place I really have to be is NRT so the rest of the segments are just because I have them to use.
The major question I have is regarding the Middle East rule of only two segments to/from, which I believe only applies from the UK, if I've read the sticky correctly. I just want to make sure that I can take two intra-Middle East segments (AMM-BEY-AMM).
Also I've read through searching here that I can book AA codeshares where they exist, which would come in very handy on all the CX segments, all but one of which, as far as I know, have AA codeshares. Just want to make sure that is the case.
Thanks very much for any suggestions in advance, I really appreciate it.
Regards, GL
CDG-AMM-xBEY-xAMM-CDG-ORD-xSFO-DFW-xANC-DFW-xJFK-xSFO-HKG-xSIN-xBKK-xHKG-xNRT-CDG
Essentially I'm not looking to fully maximize miles in most cases (for example, I know I'm not doing so in Europe, but have to be in Beirut and want to take RJ so as to earn full EQMs.) In Asia, however, I'm flexible--the only place I really have to be is NRT so the rest of the segments are just because I have them to use.
The major question I have is regarding the Middle East rule of only two segments to/from, which I believe only applies from the UK, if I've read the sticky correctly. I just want to make sure that I can take two intra-Middle East segments (AMM-BEY-AMM).
Also I've read through searching here that I can book AA codeshares where they exist, which would come in very handy on all the CX segments, all but one of which, as far as I know, have AA codeshares. Just want to make sure that is the case.
Thanks very much for any suggestions in advance, I really appreciate it.
Regards, GL
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Thanks for the quick responses.
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Yes, that would work, provided you do not stopover in HKG.
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Great, thanks so much.
By chance do you happen to know about AA voucher utilization on RTWs?--specifically in this case I was told by an agent that I could only apply an AA voucher to the ticket if both transoceanic flights were on AA metal. But the AA voucher conditions seem to state that they are valid on AA as well as all AA codeshares. Just on the off chance you have any insight into that, thought I'd ask.
By chance do you happen to know about AA voucher utilization on RTWs?--specifically in this case I was told by an agent that I could only apply an AA voucher to the ticket if both transoceanic flights were on AA metal. But the AA voucher conditions seem to state that they are valid on AA as well as all AA codeshares. Just on the off chance you have any insight into that, thought I'd ask.
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Great, thanks so much.
By chance do you happen to know about AA voucher utilization on RTWs?--specifically in this case I was told by an agent that I could only apply an AA voucher to the ticket if both transoceanic flights were on AA metal. But the AA voucher conditions seem to state that they are valid on AA as well as all AA codeshares. Just on the off chance you have any insight into that, thought I'd ask.
By chance do you happen to know about AA voucher utilization on RTWs?--specifically in this case I was told by an agent that I could only apply an AA voucher to the ticket if both transoceanic flights were on AA metal. But the AA voucher conditions seem to state that they are valid on AA as well as all AA codeshares. Just on the off chance you have any insight into that, thought I'd ask.
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This is my first time attempting an RTW (an LONE3 in this case), and while I've made myself familiar with all the rules, etc., I thought I'd post my itinerary here in order to ask about a couple of things. The itin looks like this:
CDG-AMM-xBEY-xAMM-CDG-ORD-xSFO-DFW-xANC-DFW-xJFK-xSFO-HKG-xSIN-xBKK-xHKG-xNRT-CDG
CDG-AMM-xBEY-xAMM-CDG-ORD-xSFO-DFW-xANC-DFW-xJFK-xSFO-HKG-xSIN-xBKK-xHKG-xNRT-CDG
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48N . 6. 1 INTERNATIONAL DEPARTURE AND 1 INTERNATIONAL
49N . ARRIVAL
50N . FROM/TO THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN PERMITTED.
51N . --------------------------------------------------
52N . -----
53N .
54N . EXCEPTION
55N . ORIGINATING USA - 2 PERMITTED WHEN 1 ARRIVAL-
56N . DEPARTURE
57N . IS A TRANSIT WITHOUT STOPOVER.
58N . .
59N . --------------------------------------------------
60N . -----
61N .
62N . NOTE
63N . TRAVEL BETWEEN US AND CANADA IS NOT COUNTED AS
64N . INTERNATIONAL.
49N . ARRIVAL
50N . FROM/TO THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN PERMITTED.
51N . --------------------------------------------------
52N . -----
53N .
54N . EXCEPTION
55N . ORIGINATING USA - 2 PERMITTED WHEN 1 ARRIVAL-
56N . DEPARTURE
57N . IS A TRANSIT WITHOUT STOPOVER.
58N . .
59N . --------------------------------------------------
60N . -----
61N .
62N . NOTE
63N . TRAVEL BETWEEN US AND CANADA IS NOT COUNTED AS
64N . INTERNATIONAL.
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Thanks for that clarification (and to the previous poster for pointing it out). So, looks like I'll either need to originate in LHR or head back towards the US via LHR. Not a huge problem, though I hope it won't add significantly to the taxes.
BEYFlyer, looks like I'll be in Beirut from the end of June for around six weeks, so I'll miss that event in May, but perhaps I'll see you there in July some time!
BEYFlyer, looks like I'll be in Beirut from the end of June for around six weeks, so I'll miss that event in May, but perhaps I'll see you there in July some time!
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If you don't need to go back to Europe, you can do the AMM-ORD flight. Saves a segment as well.
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One additional question--if I do end up originating in LHR, does that mean I have to end in LHR as well? Or can I end up in CDG?
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Be careful starting in the UK as so many itineraries involve connections at LHR. Only one departure from country of origin.
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Very interesting....I hadn't thought of that flight. However just checking now, it appears L is zeroed out on all possible dates for me to fly out. Too bad.
One additional question--if I do end up originating in LHR, does that mean I have to end in LHR as well? Or can I end up in CDG?
One additional question--if I do end up originating in LHR, does that mean I have to end in LHR as well? Or can I end up in CDG?
Yes you would have to end in the UK. However, remember that headinclouds, who pointed out the problem, suggested that you can keep CDG at the beginning and end and substitute LHR in the middle.

