AA,CX,AY move to Terminal 2 at NRT
Nov 24, 2006 | 9:14 pm
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AA,CX,AY move to Terminal 2 at NRT
I just read a travel magazine in Japanese.
AA are going to move Terminal 2 from Terminal 1 at NRT on Jan 17, 2007.
AA's new lounge has 264 seats.
AA use gate 71 to 76 shared by CX.
AY and CX also move in 2007.
An article on a Japanese BBS says CX is scheduled to move on Jan 21, 2007.
---- UPDATE (01DEC2006) ----
I asked CX lounge staff at NRT on 1st Dec.
She confirmed that from 21st Jan, CX operates at Terminal 2.
---- UPDATE (05DEC2006) ----
AA web site announces new lounge.
http://www.aa.com/content/travelInfo...ralsClub.jhtml
---- UPDATE (31JAN07) ----
AY moves to Terminal 2 on 1st March.
AA are going to move Terminal 2 from Terminal 1 at NRT on Jan 17, 2007.
AA's new lounge has 264 seats.
AA use gate 71 to 76 shared by CX.
AY and CX also move in 2007.
An article on a Japanese BBS says CX is scheduled to move on Jan 21, 2007.
---- UPDATE (01DEC2006) ----
I asked CX lounge staff at NRT on 1st Dec.
She confirmed that from 21st Jan, CX operates at Terminal 2.
---- UPDATE (05DEC2006) ----
AA web site announces new lounge.
http://www.aa.com/content/travelInfo...ralsClub.jhtml
---- UPDATE (31JAN07) ----
AY moves to Terminal 2 on 1st March.
Last edited by Wasabi Tofu; Jan 30, 2007 at 8:55 pm Reason: AY move info
Nov 28, 2006 | 7:48 pm
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Awww too bad on that timing ... I was hoping not to have to transfer terminals. I hope the CX or AA lounge at NRT is still open in terminal 1 when I next pass through on 12/31. But thanks for the info.
Nov 28, 2006 | 10:25 pm
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I'm actually kinda sad since this means I'll never get to hit the noodle joint over by Gate 28 in Terminal 1. I'm not a huge fan of the T2 satellite, although I guess you could call the perfume .... memorable.
Steve
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Nov 29, 2006 | 7:40 am
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Originally Posted by sllevin
I'm actually kinda sad since this means I'll never get to hit the noodle joint over by Gate 28 in Terminal 1. I'm not a huge fan of the T2 satellite, although I guess you could call the perfume .... memorable.
Steve
Steve
Originally Posted by Wasabi Tofu
AA use gate 71 to 76 shared by CX.
Last edited by TR35R; Nov 29, 2006 at 7:45 am
Dec 1, 2006 | 3:11 am
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I think this has all been discussed previously somewhere (I'm sure consolidation of lounges was discussed) and I can't currently find it via search, but can anyone remember why BA will be left on their own with their OW partners all over in T1?
Dec 3, 2006 | 6:43 am
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T2 is good, T2 is good... (Blah!)
For a few months now Bloompy has prepared himself for this eventual move and has psyched himself to going through the dated-looking T2, but having flown JAL a few times in the past year, perhaps T2 was not too bad after all . . . (oh, whom am I fooling? Yes it is bad, especially if one compares it to the Star Alliance wing).
I did see that JAL First Class had their own security entrance passageway, directly to the left of the regular security check entrance. Because JAL will be oneWorld, maybe this will be extended to EXPs/Emeralds as well? While I talk about JAL, do you think JAL Business Class Lounge will expand their massage program? I keep wondering why JAL did not offer the massage for the First Class lounge (FCer can still have 'em by going to the BC lounge).
At T1, the Green Car (car #6) Narita Express (N'Ex) conveniently delivers the passengers right in front of the escalators to give 'em a head start. That will be missed, too. (Oh, get over it!)
I did see that JAL First Class had their own security entrance passageway, directly to the left of the regular security check entrance. Because JAL will be oneWorld, maybe this will be extended to EXPs/Emeralds as well? While I talk about JAL, do you think JAL Business Class Lounge will expand their massage program? I keep wondering why JAL did not offer the massage for the First Class lounge (FCer can still have 'em by going to the BC lounge).
At T1, the Green Car (car #6) Narita Express (N'Ex) conveniently delivers the passengers right in front of the escalators to give 'em a head start. That will be missed, too. (Oh, get over it!)
Last edited by bloompy; Dec 3, 2006 at 6:50 am
Jan 14, 2007 | 8:19 pm
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NRT airport website
NRT airport website's announcement in English.
AA 1/17
CX 1/21
http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/what...ten/index.html
This URL will be moved, because of it is in what' new section.
AA 1/17
CX 1/21
http://www.narita-airport.jp/en/what...ten/index.html
This URL will be moved, because of it is in what' new section.
Jan 15, 2007 | 3:31 am
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Looks like this is still happening, and going to be moved before my next NRT/BKK connection on 2/17 ... nice, no more bus between AA and JL 
and with a tight connection to the LAX flight on the way back, that is a very welcome thing!
and with a tight connection to the LAX flight on the way back, that is a very welcome thing!
Jan 17, 2007 | 12:41 am
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OW press release
http://www.oneworld.com/ow/news/details?ObjectID=9330
They imply that all OW will be in T2 now by glossing over the fact that BA won't be, does this mean BA is leaving OW?
They imply that all OW will be in T2 now by glossing over the fact that BA won't be, does this mean BA is leaving OW?
Originally Posted by OW
oneworld airlines consolidate operations alongside recruit Japan Airlines at its Tokyo Narita hub
17 January 2007
Consolidation of operations by oneworld member airlines at Tokyo Narita, the main international hub of alliance member elect Japan Airlines, begins today with the transfer of American Airlines from the airport's Terminal 1 to Terminal 2, where JAL and Qantas are already housed. Cathay Pacific will move across a few days later, on Sunday (21 January), with Finnair following on Thursday, 1 March.
Their co-location will enable these oneworld airlines almost to halve minimum connections times between their flights at the airport to as little as 60 minutes, and make the overall transfer process smoother and easier.
The move is the culmination of oneworld's most significant airport consolidation project to date in the Asia-Pacific region.
Between them, the alliance's five airlines that will be housed in Terminal 2 operate more than a thousand arrivals and departures a week connecting Narita with around 50 destinations worldwide.
Narita International Airport Corporation (NAA) is currently investing JPY19 billion (US$170 million) in improvements in a five-year programme starting last year to ensure Terminal 2 can boast state-of-the-art facilities.
Meantime, as its operations begin in Terminal 2, American Airlines today also opens a new Admirals Club lounge there. At 13,300 sq ft, this new facility is almost twice as large as the one it replaces in Terminal 1 and significantly better positioned than lounges of most other US carriers at Tokyo. Besides all the usual amenities, including showers, comfortable chairs and a bar, it offers free wireless and internet access, with more than 100 ethernet ports.
Cathay Pacific will also open a new lounge as it transfers into Terminal 2. Following the design concept of The Pier, the airline's second premium lounge at its Hong Kong home, the new Narita lounge will offer passengers a stylish place to sit back and relax before they board their flight. Passengers will be able to choose food and drinks at The Long Bar, the airline's signature lounge feature, enjoy the visual entertainment in the comfortable seating area, or use one of the workstations that offer wireless internet connections.
Qantas is currently developing its own business class lounge scheduled for opening in late 2007. The exclusive space will feature a range of business services, contemporary shower and bathroom amenities as well as seating for 160, while Japan Airlines will up-grade its existing lounge facilities. Finnair will offer its customers the use of the lounges of one of its oneworld partners.
The overall improvements currently underway by NAA at Terminal 2 entail refurbishing the entire check-in area, including installing new counters and self-service kiosks and introducing new, more user-friendly security screening processes. It is also installing easier-to-read flight information displays, providing information in Japanese, English, Chinese and Korean.
The programme will also add two more pier-served gates, taking the terminal's total to 30 virtually eliminating the need to board or disembark passengers by coach, with aircraft parked at remote stands.
oneworld Managing Partner John McCulloch said: "oneworld aims to bring the operations of our member airlines together at all key airports around the world wherever it makes sense and is possible. The addition of Japan Airlines to our alliance, co-inciding with this major investment programme by Narita Airport Authority, provides us with a golden opportunity to do just this at what will be one of our most important worldwide hubs - and enable our airlines there to offer their customers a state-of-the-art passenger experience."
JAL Group Chief Executive Officer Haruka Nishimatsu said: "Our new oneworld partners moving alongside Japan Airlines in improved facilities at Tokyo Narita will enable us to achieve much greater cohesion between all partner airlines at our main international hub. Customers will benefit from more convenient, smoother and faster connections."
The consolidation of its airlines' operations at Tokyo Narita is the latest significant step taken by oneworld to bring its carriers together in improved facilities at key hubs.
In February 2006 its member airlines serving Iberia's home base Madrid moved into the airport's new EUR6 billion Terminal 4. A month later, the alliance signed a memorandum of understanding with London's BAA Heathrow which will see its member airlines consolidate operations from their current four terminals to just two from 2008 - the GBP4.2 billion (US$7.6 billion) new Terminal 5 and an up-graded Terminal 3, which is the closest of the existing terminals to the new facility.
Pictures
High resolution versions of an artist's impression of Tokyo Narita Terminal 2's new-style check-in area can be downloaded from the oneworld news section at oneworld.com/gallery Images of American Airlines and Cathay Pacific's new lounges will be available soon from www.aa.com/pressreleases and http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_INTL/aboutus
About oneworld at Tokyo Narita
oneworld's current airlines operate some 250 flights a week to and from Tokyo Narita:
* American Airlines offers 35 departures a week to the USA - two a day to Dallas/Fort Worth and dailies to Chicago O'Hare, Los Angeles and New York JFK.
* Cathay Pacific offers 35 flights a week to Hong Kong, seven via Taipei.
* Qantas operates 31 departures a week to Australia - double dailies to Cairns, dailies to Sydney and Melbourne and three a week to Perth.
* Finnair operates four flights a week to Helsinki.
* British Airways, whose services will remain in Terminal 1 for now, serves London Heathrow twice daily.
Japan Airlines, which is on track to become a oneworld member in the coming months, operates an average of 60 passenger flights a day from Tokyo Narita to more than 45 destinations worldwide.
17 January 2007
Consolidation of operations by oneworld member airlines at Tokyo Narita, the main international hub of alliance member elect Japan Airlines, begins today with the transfer of American Airlines from the airport's Terminal 1 to Terminal 2, where JAL and Qantas are already housed. Cathay Pacific will move across a few days later, on Sunday (21 January), with Finnair following on Thursday, 1 March.
Their co-location will enable these oneworld airlines almost to halve minimum connections times between their flights at the airport to as little as 60 minutes, and make the overall transfer process smoother and easier.
The move is the culmination of oneworld's most significant airport consolidation project to date in the Asia-Pacific region.
Between them, the alliance's five airlines that will be housed in Terminal 2 operate more than a thousand arrivals and departures a week connecting Narita with around 50 destinations worldwide.
Narita International Airport Corporation (NAA) is currently investing JPY19 billion (US$170 million) in improvements in a five-year programme starting last year to ensure Terminal 2 can boast state-of-the-art facilities.
Meantime, as its operations begin in Terminal 2, American Airlines today also opens a new Admirals Club lounge there. At 13,300 sq ft, this new facility is almost twice as large as the one it replaces in Terminal 1 and significantly better positioned than lounges of most other US carriers at Tokyo. Besides all the usual amenities, including showers, comfortable chairs and a bar, it offers free wireless and internet access, with more than 100 ethernet ports.
Cathay Pacific will also open a new lounge as it transfers into Terminal 2. Following the design concept of The Pier, the airline's second premium lounge at its Hong Kong home, the new Narita lounge will offer passengers a stylish place to sit back and relax before they board their flight. Passengers will be able to choose food and drinks at The Long Bar, the airline's signature lounge feature, enjoy the visual entertainment in the comfortable seating area, or use one of the workstations that offer wireless internet connections.
Qantas is currently developing its own business class lounge scheduled for opening in late 2007. The exclusive space will feature a range of business services, contemporary shower and bathroom amenities as well as seating for 160, while Japan Airlines will up-grade its existing lounge facilities. Finnair will offer its customers the use of the lounges of one of its oneworld partners.
The overall improvements currently underway by NAA at Terminal 2 entail refurbishing the entire check-in area, including installing new counters and self-service kiosks and introducing new, more user-friendly security screening processes. It is also installing easier-to-read flight information displays, providing information in Japanese, English, Chinese and Korean.
The programme will also add two more pier-served gates, taking the terminal's total to 30 virtually eliminating the need to board or disembark passengers by coach, with aircraft parked at remote stands.
oneworld Managing Partner John McCulloch said: "oneworld aims to bring the operations of our member airlines together at all key airports around the world wherever it makes sense and is possible. The addition of Japan Airlines to our alliance, co-inciding with this major investment programme by Narita Airport Authority, provides us with a golden opportunity to do just this at what will be one of our most important worldwide hubs - and enable our airlines there to offer their customers a state-of-the-art passenger experience."
JAL Group Chief Executive Officer Haruka Nishimatsu said: "Our new oneworld partners moving alongside Japan Airlines in improved facilities at Tokyo Narita will enable us to achieve much greater cohesion between all partner airlines at our main international hub. Customers will benefit from more convenient, smoother and faster connections."
The consolidation of its airlines' operations at Tokyo Narita is the latest significant step taken by oneworld to bring its carriers together in improved facilities at key hubs.
In February 2006 its member airlines serving Iberia's home base Madrid moved into the airport's new EUR6 billion Terminal 4. A month later, the alliance signed a memorandum of understanding with London's BAA Heathrow which will see its member airlines consolidate operations from their current four terminals to just two from 2008 - the GBP4.2 billion (US$7.6 billion) new Terminal 5 and an up-graded Terminal 3, which is the closest of the existing terminals to the new facility.
Pictures
High resolution versions of an artist's impression of Tokyo Narita Terminal 2's new-style check-in area can be downloaded from the oneworld news section at oneworld.com/gallery Images of American Airlines and Cathay Pacific's new lounges will be available soon from www.aa.com/pressreleases and http://www.cathaypacific.com/cpa/en_INTL/aboutus
About oneworld at Tokyo Narita
oneworld's current airlines operate some 250 flights a week to and from Tokyo Narita:
* American Airlines offers 35 departures a week to the USA - two a day to Dallas/Fort Worth and dailies to Chicago O'Hare, Los Angeles and New York JFK.
* Cathay Pacific offers 35 flights a week to Hong Kong, seven via Taipei.
* Qantas operates 31 departures a week to Australia - double dailies to Cairns, dailies to Sydney and Melbourne and three a week to Perth.
* Finnair operates four flights a week to Helsinki.
* British Airways, whose services will remain in Terminal 1 for now, serves London Heathrow twice daily.
Japan Airlines, which is on track to become a oneworld member in the coming months, operates an average of 60 passenger flights a day from Tokyo Narita to more than 45 destinations worldwide.
Jan 17, 2007 | 1:19 am
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Pictures up on AA site:
http://www.aa.com/content/travelInfo...ralsClub.jhtml
Only 2 flatscreen TVs... and only 50 inch...
Mind you the free wireless Internet and 100 Ethernet ports is a great move (only wish some airlines, cough QF would do the same)
So with CX, QF, JAL and AA lounges appears everyone is going to be spoilt for choice - one wonders why they didn't just build a mega-Oneworld lounge.
Me wonders whether this will result in some restrictions on partner lounges (eg the "Finnair will offer its customers the use of the lounges of one of its oneworld partners" and the "exclusive space" wording re Qantas)
http://www.aa.com/content/travelInfo...ralsClub.jhtml
Only 2 flatscreen TVs... and only 50 inch...
Mind you the free wireless Internet and 100 Ethernet ports is a great move (only wish some airlines, cough QF would do the same)
So with CX, QF, JAL and AA lounges appears everyone is going to be spoilt for choice - one wonders why they didn't just build a mega-Oneworld lounge.
Me wonders whether this will result in some restrictions on partner lounges (eg the "Finnair will offer its customers the use of the lounges of one of its oneworld partners" and the "exclusive space" wording re Qantas)
Jan 17, 2007 | 9:46 am
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I wonder where the new QF and CX lounges will be in terminal 2? There doesn't seem to be space adjacent to the new AC, and space is tight in T2 in general (unless they've added some in year 1 of that USD 170 million improvement program).
One reason to have separately run lounges is the ability to accomodate irregular ops. CX will keep the lounge open when flights are delayed, no matter how long it takes. AA will close their lounge on schedule, as will QF. This difference in philosophy is irreconcilable, and CX will always have their own lounge operation because of this.
Jan 17, 2007 | 10:05 am
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There can be many reasons - different operating hours, different lounge access rules for individual airlines' own members or VIPs...