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Old May 14, 2006 | 2:51 am
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Question Why are there no OW planes?

I'm just wondering why there are no OW livery planes like *A has?
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Old May 14, 2006 | 4:10 am
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Originally Posted by ByrdluvsAWACO
I'm just wondering why there are no OW livery planes like *A has?
Would you want to put the dreadful OW logo on the tail of your plane?

When OW finally get their act together to design a decent logo, than may this will become a realisting option.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 4:19 am
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The *A planes really do look good though. I don't think any other Alliance has this, not even Sky Team.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by lallyr
The *A planes really do look good though. I don't think any other Alliance has this, not even Sky Team.
*A is the only alliance with a decent logo. Even Scary's logo is weak.

Lets hope this changes soon.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 8:58 am
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I dont like the *A planes. They remind me of those trucks that drive around the city with no particular purpose except for the billboard they have stuck on them....The day they replace the flying kangaroo with that purple beach ball on the tail, is the day I start flying *A.

Is this a requirement of airlines joining *A to have a *A logo plane???
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Old May 14, 2006 | 9:59 am
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Yes, from what I understand it is contractual for a number of aircraft from each airline to be done in the *A logo.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 2:44 pm
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Originally Posted by Traveloguy
Would you want to put the dreadful OW logo on the tail of your plane?
Originally Posted by bensyd
The day they replace the flying kangaroo with that purple beach ball on the tail,
I don't think the "beach ball' is that big of an issue since SQ uses their logo on the tails of *A planes. The *A terms must allow for this.

http://www.airliners.net/open.file/1032118/M/

Here's a OW mockup(It's not that good)

EI in OW livery
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Old May 14, 2006 | 3:25 pm
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Actually, I seem to recall that SQ held out for as long as possible before doing a plane in *A colors, and that not painting the tailfin with the *A logo is in fact a breach of the *A rules. Can't say I blame them for trying to hold out...
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Old May 14, 2006 | 4:48 pm
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Originally Posted by WearyBizTrvlr
Actually, I seem to recall that SQ held out for as long as possible before doing a plane in *A colors, and that not painting the tailfin with the *A logo is in fact a breach of the *A rules. Can't say I blame them for trying to hold out...
It is also the reason that SQ don't participate in certain *A activities etc. Remember how the status match the year before last did not include SQ?

Sometimes I think SQ are part of *A simple because they feel they have to belong to an alliance rather than because they want to be. In may respects, they are a bit like the UK within the EU. Part of it but at the same time not wanting to be really part of it.
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Old May 14, 2006 | 5:50 pm
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Who wants to waste cash painting a stupid logo?
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Old May 14, 2006 | 11:51 pm
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Originally Posted by Traveloguy
It is also the reason that SQ don't participate in certain *A activities etc. Remember how the status match the year before last did not include SQ?

Sometimes I think SQ are part of *A simple because they feel they have to belong to an alliance rather than because they want to be. In may respects, they are a bit like the UK within the EU. Part of it but at the same time not wanting to be really part of it.
Very true!
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Old May 15, 2006 | 4:25 am
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Originally Posted by Traveloguy
Sometimes I think SQ are part of *A simple because they feel they have to belong to an alliance rather than because they want to be.
This is so true: just look at the many FF tiers (PPS I mean) accessible only to those who fly on SQ metal.... and their 'on-the-side' tie-ups with non-Star airlines like Virgin Atlantic

Wouldn't surprise me to see them take a stronger role in Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Blue, and maybe a US domestic carrier,and slip out of Star altogether

Now, back on topic
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Old May 15, 2006 | 4:54 am
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Originally Posted by yyzflyalot
Yes, from what I understand it is contractual for a number of aircraft from each airline to be done in the *A logo.
According to a press release from SAA when it recently joined *A, members are required to put at least 3% of their fleet into *A livery. SAA has done up 2 craft: an A340 and a B737.
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Old May 15, 2006 | 6:08 am
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Originally Posted by mrkz
Wouldn't surprise me to see them take a stronger role in Virgin Atlantic and Virgin Blue, and maybe a US domestic carrier,and slip out of Star altogether
Isn't Branson in the process of setting up Virgin USA? If so, between the Virgin Airline Brands (Nigeria, Blue, Atlantic and USA) and SQ, they pretty much have all the world covered. All they now need is to set up a South American carrier and SQ can exit Star and form a new 'alliance' with the Virgin group.
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Originally Posted by Traveloguy
Isn't Branson in the process of setting up Virgin USA? If so, between the Virgin Airline Brands (Nigeria, Blue, Atlantic and USA) and SQ, they pretty much have all the world covered. All they now need is to set up a South American carrier and SQ can exit Star and form a new 'alliance' with the Virgin group.
Quite right, I had forgotten that!

IIRC, the only difference is that Virgin Blue and Virgin America are LLC (no FFtiers, no C or F...), unlike Virgin Atlantic

But where there's a will there's a way!

It is a funny combination though: ultra-conservative SQ with Branson's sexy image !
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