ORD-DEL direction?
Dec 1, 2005 | 7:16 am
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ORD-DEL direction?
I'm thinking vaguely about an RTW in 2006 and had a question. Tried a search here but didn't find it.
Is AA's ORD-DEL flight considered trans-Atlantic or trans-Pacific? The great circle route goes slightly to the Atlantic side of the North Pole - it crosses the north of Greenland, well north of all of Scandinavia - but other flights between the U.S. and Asia are considered trans-Pacific.
(This matters, of course, because of direction of travel among continents.)
I'm sure this has an answer, and if any question has an answer, FTers know what it is!
Is AA's ORD-DEL flight considered trans-Atlantic or trans-Pacific? The great circle route goes slightly to the Atlantic side of the North Pole - it crosses the north of Greenland, well north of all of Scandinavia - but other flights between the U.S. and Asia are considered trans-Pacific.
(This matters, of course, because of direction of travel among continents.)
I'm sure this has an answer, and if any question has an answer, FTers know what it is!
Dec 1, 2005 | 7:40 am
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If you plough through this thread: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...hlight=ORD-DEL you will see that the AA RTW desk are considering it as trans-pacific.
Dec 1, 2005 | 7:28 pm
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Definitely considered trans-pacific. Booked and ticketed DONE4 with AA. Just finished the first leg ORD -DEL of RTW itinerary this week. I used e-VIP to upgrade this leg to FC. FC was about half full - good food, good service and 16 hours went by pretty quickly.
Dec 1, 2005 | 10:00 pm
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Thanks again. Makes more sense to treat it as a trans-Pac, even though its route is slightly to the other side. Were it trans-Atlantic, it would be possible to do an RTW with just two continents - North America and Asia! (I know there's no fare for it, probably in part because it's never been possible and isn't now as things stand, but it would be possible under those conditions.)
Dec 2, 2005 | 9:49 am
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Originally Posted by Efrem
Thanks again. Makes more sense to treat it as a trans-Pac, even though its route is slightly to the other side. Were it trans-Atlantic, it would be possible to do an RTW with just two continents - North America and Asia! (I know there's no fare for it, probably in part because it's never been possible and isn't now as things stand, but it would be possible under those conditions.)
Dec 3, 2005 | 2:38 am
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Originally Posted by prudentbear
Definitely considered trans-pacific. Booked and ticketed DONE4 with AA. Just finished the first leg ORD -DEL of RTW itinerary this week. I used e-VIP to upgrade this leg to FC. FC was about half full - good food, good service and 16 hours went by pretty quickly.
Dec 3, 2005 | 3:42 am
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Originally Posted by headinclouds
Yes there was a lot of speculation of 4-continent trips becoming 3 continent, etc. And at first AA did consider it trans-atlantic, but reverted to trans-pacific 2 weeks later.
Dec 5, 2005 | 9:11 pm
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Originally Posted by susanita3333
did you happen to notice how full J was? I am flying J (company paid!), have mom upgraded to J with miles one way confirmed, waitlisted on the return...EXP desk says they really dont have a handle on how full the flights will actually be as its a new flight...for the return, flight has only used up 6 of the 35 j seats, but none are available for EVIP right now...just curious..
One sign of caution for check in, AA and Air India flights use same line to X-Ray check-in luggage and there are 3/4 AI flights around the same time so the X-Ray line could get really long...
Dec 5, 2005 | 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by RTW4
Would you mind posting the menu of FC of the ORD-DEL flight. I am thinking of adding this segment on my ONE5. Thanks....
Meal approx. 8 hrs later ( Indian meal option, prawns)
Breakfast approx. hour before landing.
Hope this helps.
Dec 5, 2005 | 9:58 pm
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Originally Posted by prudentbear
Did not seem that full.. I still could see some empty seats.
One sign of caution for check in, AA and Air India flights use same line to X-Ray check-in luggage and there are 3/4 AI flights around the same time so the X-Ray line could get really long...
One sign of caution for check in, AA and Air India flights use same line to X-Ray check-in luggage and there are 3/4 AI flights around the same time so the X-Ray line could get really long...
Dec 6, 2005 | 2:09 pm
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Originally Posted by PMMMDL
If you are flying in Business class, they usually let you cut the line. Show your boarding pass to the employees organizing the line, and they will usher you up to the front.
Dec 7, 2005 | 10:50 pm
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Originally Posted by Efrem
...snip... The great circle route goes slightly to the Atlantic side of the North Pole - it crosses the north of Greenland, well north of all of Scandinavia - but other flights between the U.S. and Asia are considered trans-Pacific. ...snip...
Dec 20, 2005 | 9:14 am
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heads it's trans-atlantic, tails it's trans-pacific
As of today the AA RTW desk has been instructed to treat the ORD-DEL flight as trans-atlantic. Even though you skip Europe, you still pay for the continent. So pay for 3, get 2 etc. The agents at AA are really miffed about this.
Last edited by headinclouds; Dec 20, 2005 at 9:18 am Reason: deleted idle gossip