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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 8:40 am
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My apologies if this has been brought up previously or is in the wrong forum...

I'm about to join a one-world FF scheme and was wondering which one everyone thought would be the best for someone who travels on QF and CX more than the others. I've considered the QF frequent flyer scheme but given the latest changes its not worth the $82.50. Asia miles or AAdvantage look good??

opinions anyone??
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 8:43 am
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opinions anyone??
Try the OneWorld forum?
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 8:59 am
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Hey you dont get 6,000 posts in 6 yrs (3 posts a day, everyday) without constantly leaving smug, short answers.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 9:07 am
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 9:56 am
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Welcome to Flyertalk!

I'll go ahead and move this to the OneWorld forum where you should get a better response.

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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 10:21 am
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Liam,

If you have an overseas address (you can borow one from a mate), you can use that in ur application form for QF FFP and you do not need to pay the membership fees altogether. However this means you don't get the membership card, but hey no biggie. I think you're quite right about the recent changes making QF FFP rather unattractive though as they've made it practically impossible to get upgrades, unless you're QF Plat or Gold which in themselves are harder to achieve than a lot of other airlines (except maybe SQ PPS Club), and diminished the value of mileage accrued.

I believe you've already been told of the AAdvantage Platinum Challenge when we were chatting on msn - get 10k points (points are based on what fares you pay) within 3 months and you get AA Plat straightaway. This shouldn't be too hard as you travel on J and full Y a lot. AA Plat entitles you to oneworld sapphire benefits such as lounge access and priority check in. Simplest way to sign up for the plat challenge is by ringing up the AAdvantage office in the US as the Australian office would probably tell you that they can't do it. You can start ur challenge either on the 1st or 16th of every month so sign up just b4 u travel. Renewal is via the normal method of accruing 50k miles or points (whichever you achieve first) though. AA also requires you to travel at least 4 sectors in a year on AA to renew elite status (Challenges are exempted) however I've been told that they don't really enforce this rule. Look at the AAdvantage sticky for more info.

You might also want to check out the CX scheme - AsiaMiles for miles and Marco Polo Club for status. Joining both is imperative unless you want only miles and not status or vice versa. CX is known to treat their elites, and even other oneworld elites very well.

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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 3:53 am
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g'day Keith, thanks for the insight last night, however either way with the recent "revamp" of the QF program its not worth the effort carrying round the extra bit of plastic really.

hmm so many choices out there...
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 11:40 am
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CX scheme is good but quirky. Depending on how you fly and use miles it can be quite good or quite bad. Highly variable on your circumstances. Asiamiles are harder to earn than other miles (so 1 Asiamile is worth more than 1 AAdvantage mile or QFF mile, etc.). You can't compare award cost directly because of this, you have to work out what you would earn in a year on the various plans and then see what you can redeem for that earned amount. CX is particularly good if you want to get upgrades on CX (I haven't joined CX's plans for precisely this reason, I never want to get upgrades on CX as I purchase the class that I want to fly).
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by number_6
CX scheme is good but quirky. Depending on how you fly and use miles it can be quite good or quite bad. Highly variable on your circumstances. Asiamiles are harder to earn than other miles (so 1 Asiamile is worth more than 1 AAdvantage mile or QFF mile, etc.). You can't compare award cost directly because of this, you have to work out what you would earn in a year on the various plans and then see what you can redeem for that earned amount. CX is particularly good if you want to get upgrades on CX (I haven't joined CX's plans for precisely this reason, I never want to get upgrades on CX as I purchase the class that I want to fly).
Do you mean you actively turn down upgrades then if they are offerred? :S
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Old Jun 19, 2005 | 2:33 pm
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I don't turn down upgrades, but I always fly F on CX so there isn't much upgrade potential.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 12:57 pm
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I was in the same situation last year when health kept me from flying until late October - leaving no chance to qualify for EXP on AA. I looked at all of the options and chose BA, mainly because their system allowed me to qualify for Silver on one RTW and they delivered a free club membership with that level. I found that BA was far better over the Atlantic that AA in Business and will be using them in the future.

In Perth (where I lived for 8 years, by the way) the options may be different. It would depend on where you want to fly when using your points as well as how fast you can qualify for elite status. Show CX how often you fly and they might give you an immediate elite status.

AA is OK for collecting miles, but as I recall you need 4 domestic segments each year. I think BA is better than AA, but you don't get bonus miles as fast.
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Old Jun 23, 2005 | 11:17 am
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Originally Posted by kenm
In Perth (where I lived for 8 years, by the way) the options may be different. It would depend on where you want to fly when using your points as well as how fast you can qualify for elite status. Show CX how often you fly and they might give you an immediate elite status.

AA is OK for collecting miles, but as I recall you need 4 domestic segments each year. I think BA is better than AA, but you don't get bonus miles as fast.
Unfortunately Australian residents are not allowed to join the BA programme. You are encouraged to join QF!

More information can be found here:

http://www.britishairways.com/trave...u?prim=execclub

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