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NoWindowSeat Mar 16, 2005 2:18 pm


Originally Posted by SanDiego1K
What airline and flight number is LHR-PER? I just checked www.itn.net, and can only find connections; I can't find a single flight number covering that entire distance.

QF16 LHR-PER via SIN, not a daily service, though.

SanDiego1K Mar 16, 2005 2:22 pm


Originally Posted by NoWindowSeat
QF16 LHR-PER via SIN, not a daily service, though.

Thanks, it's nice to know of another very long trip that can be done with one flight number.

Just for kicks, I pulled up the price for LHR-PER one way in first: $11,963!! Thank God we know about RTWs; I sure couldn't fly up front otherwise.

ELO Mar 22, 2005 7:06 am

Hi Folks I would finally like to put this itinerary to bed so I can have a good sleep .BA in cai are still insisting that my itinerary fare aone5 is 49471 ,as they believe I have an extra flight in America . more advise is needed , as this is turning out to be like a court case . I will make my case for the defence , based on what I believe to be Valid , here goes cai-lhr-per-mel-chc-mel,percns,syd-jfk-scl-lim-eze-gru-jfk-dfw-anc-dfw-jfk,bos-mia-lax-lhr-cai ,Now before I come to the prosecutions case I have checked the validator many times ,and it has agreed with my IT. BA are saying that I have an extra flight in america which I do not read . I come back from gru to jfk , that reads to me as an intercontinental ,irrespective of landing in jfk ,that means that my first NA is jfk -dfw
, also Syd-scl they have not made it clear that I can go on qf107 transfering in jfk to lan 531 to scl Please can someone sort out this confusion ,so clearly next time I contact Mrs Sobhi , my defence will be water tight Thanks exhausted Elo

NoWindowSeat Mar 22, 2005 7:52 am

Rather than argueing with CAI I would advice you to call BA UK/US and request an agent with RTW knowledge.



Originally Posted by ELO
Hi Folks I would finally like to put this itinerary to bed so I can have a good sleep .BA in cai are still insisting that my itinerary fare aone5 is 49471 ,as they believe I have an extra flight in America . more advise is needed , as this is turning out to be like a court case . I will make my case for the defence , based on what I believe to be Valid , here goes cai-lhr-per-mel-chc-mel,percns,syd-jfk-scl-lim-eze-gru-jfk-dfw-anc-dfw-jfk,bos-mia-lax-lhr-cai ,Now before I come to the prosecutions case I have checked the validator many times ,and it has agreed with my IT. BA are saying that I have an extra flight in america which I do not read . I come back from gru to jfk , that reads to me as an intercontinental ,irrespective of landing in jfk ,that means that my first NA is jfk -dfw
, also Syd-scl they have not made it clear that I can go on qf107 transfering in jfk to lan 531 to scl Please can someone sort out this confusion ,so clearly next time I contact Mrs Sobhi , my defence will be water tight Thanks exhausted Elo


ELO Mar 22, 2005 8:12 am

Hi N.W.O. I have checked with Ba ,which I explained in a previous post, and even they are not up to scratch ,my last resort is too speak to QF , as my experience with the australians in most service related issues has been excellent. Just as a footnote I have noticed that cai have misinterpreted a jkk-bos as a flight and not a surface sector ,so all in all this is where the problem lay. The only other issue now remains syd-scl . Never the less Thank you for the continued support ,which is turning out to be like along boring book elo

christep Mar 22, 2005 9:49 am


Originally Posted by ELO
Hi N.W.O. I have checked with Ba ,which I explained in a previous post, and even they are not up to scratch ,my last resort is too speak to QF , as my experience with the australians in most service related issues has been excellent. Just as a footnote I have noticed that cai have misinterpreted a jkk-bos as a flight and not a surface sector ,so all in all this is where the problem lay. The only other issue now remains syd-scl . Never the less Thank you for the continued support ,which is turning out to be like along boring book elo

ELO,

With respect, if the standard of English with which you are communicating with BA Cairo is similar to that with which you are writing here then I am not surprised that you are having difficulties. When dealing with people for whom English is not the first language I find that it helps enormously to write simple, precise, well punctuated English. Your posts here, frankly, meet none of these criteria.

Personally I have never had any significant difficulties with BA or AA (Emeco) in Cairo.

ELO Mar 22, 2005 11:31 am

Hi Christep also with respect .I am not at school anymore , and I did not realise there was a rule on written english . However in light of what you have written ,maybe I should of explained more clearly my itinerary to BA in cairo , but looking back I did .so in future I would appreciate a more "stick to the itinerary approach ,rather than what I see as a slant on my written english.

headinclouds Mar 22, 2005 11:53 am


Originally Posted by christep
ELO,

With respect, if the standard of English with which you are communicating with BA Cairo is similar to that with which you are writing here then I am not surprised that you are having difficulties. When dealing with people for whom English is not the first language I find that it helps enormously to write simple, precise, well punctuated English. Your posts here, frankly, meet none of these criteria.

Personally I have never had any significant difficulties with BA or AA (Emeco) in Cairo.

Christep has made a valid point. I have not had any difficulties with either BA or AA in Cairo. Since some of your postings have require a second or third reading in order to understand your point, I can see why there can be confusion between BA/AA and yourself. However, ELO also has a valid point. The BA RTW office does misintrepret its own rules as many here have stated.

jerry a. laska Mar 22, 2005 12:19 pm


Originally Posted by headinclouds
Christep has made a valid point. I have not had any difficulties with either BA or AA in Cairo. Since some of your postings have require a second or third reading in order to understand your point, I can see why there can be confusion between BA/AA and yourself. However, ELO also has a valid point. The BA RTW office does misintrepret its own rules as many here have stated.

Consequently, if the itinerary is valid ELO could fax the itinerary to EMECO and get the itinerary approved, priced, and issued. Failing that fax the itinerary to AA RTW desk in the US get them to approve the itinerary and send it off to Dublin for pricing, obtain the locator, and forward that to EMECO for ticket issuance. Emeco will then fedex the ticket to ELO.

ELO Mar 23, 2005 10:07 am

Hi Jerry a.laska
I have finally had an agreed itinerary with fare and taxes for an Aone 5 . it comes to 51230 egp. however I can still not make sense of the breakdown in taxes . Can you help my itinerary is confirmed as cai-lhr-per-mel-chc-mel,per-cns,syd-jfk-scl-lim-eze-gru-jfk-dfw-anc-dfw-jfk,bos-mia-lax-lhr-cai.
Then this the breakdown of the taxes ,which does not make much sense . it reads exactly as the email . EGP691EG1741YQ/898GB/268UB/70QR/350AU/45WG/16QK/139WY/86WY/450US/151ZQ/55QO. It seems an excessive amount of an airfare 46270. with taxes etc nearly £500.00 ? Thanks elo

headinclouds Mar 23, 2005 10:38 am


Originally Posted by ELO
Hi Jerry a.laska
I have finally had an agreed itinerary with fare and taxes for an Aone 5 . it comes to 51230 egp. however I can still not make sense of the breakdown in taxes . Can you help my itinerary is confirmed as cai-lhr-per-mel-chc-mel,per-cns,syd-jfk-scl-lim-eze-gru-jfk-dfw-anc-dfw-jfk,bos-mia-lax-lhr-cai.
Then this the breakdown of the taxes ,which does not make much sense . it reads exactly as the email . EGP691EG1741YQ/898GB/268UB/70QR/350AU/45WG/16QK/139WY/86WY/450US/151ZQ/55QO. It seems an excessive amount of an airfare 46270. with taxes etc nearly £500.00 ? Thanks elo

Taxes of almost 10% of the price, though a bit high, is not unheard of for these type of tickets. The normal range is 5-8% of ticket price. And taxes vary whether you transit or stop in a city. The UK is awful in this regard, as a stop in the UK will cost you 40 GBP when you travel in a premium cabin.

Another thing that I have noticed on tickets reviewed by European tariff desks is double foreign exchange conversions. I believe that BA in the UK translates US $ to GBP and then converts that to the local currency. If you do many of these transactions, it can add up.

jerry a. laska Mar 23, 2005 10:46 am


Originally Posted by ELO
Hi Jerry a.laska
I have finally had an agreed itinerary with fare and taxes for an Aone 5 . it comes to 51230 egp. however I can still not make sense of the breakdown in taxes . Can you help my itinerary is confirmed as cai-lhr-per-mel-chc-mel,per-cns,syd-jfk-scl-lim-eze-gru-jfk-dfw-anc-dfw-jfk,bos-mia-lax-lhr-cai.
Then this the breakdown of the taxes ,which does not make much sense . it reads exactly as the email . EGP691EG1741YQ/898GB/268UB/70QR/350AU/45WG/16QK/139WY/86WY/450US/151ZQ/55QO. It seems an excessive amount of an airfare 46270. with taxes etc nearly £500.00 ? Thanks elo

Taxes on my AONE's ex CAI have averaged about 12% of the total ticket price.
This website can help you figure out the taxes for yourself:
http://www.consolidatedtravel.com.au/qf/taxes.asp

ELO Mar 23, 2005 1:40 pm

Hi Thank you all for all the advice and I know for sure that if it was not for flyertalk and its members I would not have succeededin this rtw Elo


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