Hi....I am locked in to the BA/UK FFP scheme, and the time is near to think of treating the wife to a round the world trip. Where I am struggling is to try and work out how many miles are required for 2 x Club tickets, and the 'rules' that may or may not go with them. Can anybody point me in the direction of any other links, that would help me work out what I can and cannot do. For example, do the same terms and conditions exist with a 'free' RTW ticket as a paid version....at least I can then work out how many stopovers and internal flights are allowed. And 'back tracking'.....is 2/3 times around Australia regarded as back tracking, before moving on ? Is what I am trying to do the ultimate nightmare or can anybody recommend it....in a nutshell we probably only want to do London...Far East....NZ/Australia.....over to N America and home. Seems pretty simple to me , but.........................! (ps Thanks.)

The rules are specific to each FF plan, so if by spending BA miles you mean redeeming an award from BAEC then you would be best advised to ask in the BA forum. There are awards called "Oneworld" awards offered by AA/BA/QF/CX (and presumably also the other 4 OW airlines) but each has significant differences in rules. As a guideline in the AA plan it would cost 220K miles for J with travel up to 50K miles allowed (the mileage is summed from stopover to stopover). Rules at http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnersContent

I'm sure BAEC has similar info on their web site but it is harder to find!

Given how I've found it hard to find basic info in past versions of the BA site, it's actually pretty easy to find the chart in the current version, IMHO. Not much detail on rules, though.

exec club>redeeming BA miles>Redeeming with our partners
https://www.britishairways.com/trave...club/_gf/en_us

Redeem your BA Miles on more than one partner airline

Use the table below to calculate the number of BA Miles you will need to redeem for a flight where the itinerary includes:
Two or more oneworld(TM) partner airlines (not including British Airways) or
Three or more oneworld(TM) partner airlines, if the itinerary includes British Airways.
Click here for a list of oneworld(TM) and other partner airlines.
To calculate the number of BA Miles required, add up the number of miles for each sector of your journey and refer to the table below.
Distance Range (miles) Economy
0 � 1,500 30,000
1,501 � 4,000 35,000
4,001 � 9,000 60,000
9,001 � 10,000 70,000
10,001 � 14,000 90,000
14,001 � 20,000 100,000
20,001 � 25,000 120,000
25,001 � 35,000 140,000
35,001 � 50,000 160,000
Base mileage required for return travel in economy cabins.
For further information about multi-carrier redemptions, please contact your Executive Club Service Centre or your Dedicated Reservations line

Can you fly in first with BA and oneworld? Would 35k to 50k be 330k BA miles?
Thanks

You can fly in First with BA and oneworld. Multiply cost of economy award x 3. (Business would cost economy award x 2)

I knew that was the case with a BA award but I was hoping that there was a standardization with oneworld. 330k like aa instead of 520 at 3x economy with ba.

Thanks for the help

No standardisation I'm afraid. Each program has their own award redemption rate for each product.

Mike,

I would strongly recommend calling BAEC in the UK & asking them. The website gives these details:

Phone 0870 850 4 850 (from the UK) +44 191 490 7901 (outside UK)
Fax +44 (0)1787 881405
...
Opening hours Mon-Fri 0800-2000 hours / Sat-Sun 0900-1700 hours

They should be able to give you answers to your questions pretty easily. (One question I would like answered is what is meant by "miles required for return travel". Do you just add up the sectors for the outward trip and calculate the cost from that? I suspect that it really means that you have to return to your starting point, or close to it.)

Certainly in the past, the Award RTW did have very restrictive rules re: no backtracking. I managed to get one in 2002 (Club RTW for 160K .... ) but couldn't even go back to SYD from CBR, as I was travelling westward. OTOH, I could go forward to MEL & then on to HKG & could probably then have gone to PER. What I did find that there was almost no award availability in Club from LAX to SYD. I was booking in May for October & there was only 1 award seat left in Club at any October date. What I found worthwhile was to electronically join CX, QF & AA FF programmes just to find award availability. (Didn't work for AA but helped with the other two.)

It's finding availability where the BAEC phone service is especially helpful. I think only they can see all the award inventories, but,in Lyon at least, they were of great help. Sure, I'd done my homework, and this might have helped a bit, but they did a good job filling in the gaps.

Please let us know how you get on, & I hope the two of you have a great trip.

Russ

3*160 = 480, not 520.

No - BA don't seem to have a RTW product (when I called them a year ago) - you just add up the sectors. No need to come back to where you started. Can backtrack all you like. That's my understanding from a year ago.