RTW DONE4 ex Thailand.
Jul 27, 2004 | 1:21 am
#16
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Originally Posted by meadowfield
The routing is now finalised BKK PEK ( via HKG), PEK KIX( VIA HKG), KIX MEL( via HKG), MEL BME, BME MEL, MEL CNS, CNS MEL, SYD JFK, LGA DFW, DFW BOS, BOS SFO, SFO LHR transit LHR CAI, CAI LHR transit LHR IST, IST LHR, LHR BKK, which I think uses all the segments. I have booked seats on the Asian and Australian segments using the Cathay office in Mel. So far , so good. But 2 weeks ago I emailed the routing to Cathay in BKK, and they replied that they would get their ticketing office to send a quote, which I am still waiting for, despite a couple of reminders. Traveller 2000 agency has sent 3 or 4 emails back asking to clarify the routing which I have tried to do, but they still can't seem to understand it, and Charlie connection hasn't replied at all. Am I missing something here?. All I want is a price. Should I try a different travel agent or oneworld ticket office? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
Then I decide to proceed with a TA and he started working with QF office in BKK to issue - they said they can't issue as I am not there - many phone calls to QFpremium desk etc... no idea why QF BKK was thinking they were issuing my ticket - all I wanted was for the TA to take over the reservation and ticket for me.
Anyway in the end I went with a TA - DONE4= 206750THB with approx 17000THB in taxes. There were cheaper quotes but either they were not responsibe (and I was coming up against a ticketing deadline by CX) or would then tack on a 3.1% cc fee. Above price does not incur a cc fee and is payable by Visa or MC.
Jul 27, 2004 | 4:10 pm
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QF status runs
Hi,
If I were on a QF status run, then I would be tempted to buy a single within Asia on the KIX to NRT and then take the 5000+ mile sector NRT to MEL as this is great for the status points. This would cost around US$500. The HKG to PEK return would cost around US$600 and HKG to KIX around US$900 return.
I assume that you want to go to CAI, there are a lot of Europe originator who start there but it is not the best value for status points with QFs as the Middle East Bahrain, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Muscat,Saudi, Kuwait all trip the 2700 mile mark on the long haul aircraft.
You will only pick up one departure tax from LHR as the others are all covered by transit rules, this being on your BKK sector.
If you have it issued already, what the hell...
Enjoy and I hope that you are not "done for" at the end of the trip.
Spotwelder
If I were on a QF status run, then I would be tempted to buy a single within Asia on the KIX to NRT and then take the 5000+ mile sector NRT to MEL as this is great for the status points. This would cost around US$500. The HKG to PEK return would cost around US$600 and HKG to KIX around US$900 return.
I assume that you want to go to CAI, there are a lot of Europe originator who start there but it is not the best value for status points with QFs as the Middle East Bahrain, Dubai, Abu Dhabi, Muscat,Saudi, Kuwait all trip the 2700 mile mark on the long haul aircraft.
You will only pick up one departure tax from LHR as the others are all covered by transit rules, this being on your BKK sector.
If you have it issued already, what the hell...
Enjoy and I hope that you are not "done for" at the end of the trip.
Spotwelder
Jul 27, 2004 | 8:40 pm
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Thanks for the advice. I wanted to take the CX flight back to Mel, but forgot about the 4 segment limit. I'll change it to NRT MEL on QF. Spotwelder, surprisingly I actually want to SEE Cairo, rather than just get miles, but thanks for the tip, your right though, I'll be exhausted at the end. Now, if anyone can help with a travel agent in BKK I'll be eternally grateful.
Jul 28, 2004 | 10:08 am
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Personally I'd just deal direct with CX:
Bangkok 11/F, Ploenchit Tower, 898 Ploenchit Road, Pathumwan, Lumpini, Bangkok 10330
Reservations: 66(2) 263-0606
Res. Fax: 66(2) 263-0622
Ticketing: 66(2) 263-0616
Ticketing Fax: 66(2) 263-0631
Bangkok 11/F, Ploenchit Tower, 898 Ploenchit Road, Pathumwan, Lumpini, Bangkok 10330
Reservations: 66(2) 263-0606
Res. Fax: 66(2) 263-0622
Ticketing: 66(2) 263-0616
Ticketing Fax: 66(2) 263-0631
Jul 28, 2004 | 10:42 am
#21
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[QUOTE= Traveller 2000 agency has sent 3 or 4 emails back asking to clarify the routing which I have tried to do, but they still can't seem to understand it, and Charlie connection hasn't replied at all. Am I missing something here?. All I want is a price. Should I try a different travel agent or oneworld ticket office? Thanks in advance for any suggestions.[/QUOTE]
What was "Charlie connection" I am in Bangkok now looking into the issue of an RTW or two... talking to Traveller2000 but happy to look at competitve offers...
Let me know details and I can try to push a response
What was "Charlie connection" I am in Bangkok now looking into the issue of an RTW or two... talking to Traveller2000 but happy to look at competitve offers...
Let me know details and I can try to push a response
Jul 28, 2004 | 9:04 pm
#22
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Unless you actually want to spend time in Bangkok visiting airline offices, I wouldn't deal direct with CX. I would recommend doing what I did earlier in the year. I held and priced flights with AA ( though any OW carrier would do ) and then had it taken over and ticketed by the travel agency "Circle of Aisa" in Bangkok who then sent the tickets to me via DHL. There was no need to spend a day in Bangkok; just flew the BA flight MEL-BKK on 1 ticket and continued on to London on on the same flight with the OWE ticket
Dave
Dave
Jul 28, 2004 | 10:50 pm
#23
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Dave, I emailed " Circle of Asia" a few weeks ago and got the following reply
"First of all we are sorry to inform you that we are not the airline GSA so we do not issue the airline ticket. To make the confirmed reservation, ticket must be issued in advance as per date set by the airline. We may charge you by credit card but due to our VAT government tax and service charge you may find that our airfare is not cheaper that what you expect. "
retrav1K, Charlie connection details as follows, but I haven't received a reply from him.
Charlie Connection Travel & Tour Ltd.
office: +66 2 629 4260-2
Fax: +66 2 629 4261
E-Mail: [email protected]
49 Tanao Road Pranakorn
Bangkok 10200
Thailand
"First of all we are sorry to inform you that we are not the airline GSA so we do not issue the airline ticket. To make the confirmed reservation, ticket must be issued in advance as per date set by the airline. We may charge you by credit card but due to our VAT government tax and service charge you may find that our airfare is not cheaper that what you expect. "
retrav1K, Charlie connection details as follows, but I haven't received a reply from him.
Charlie Connection Travel & Tour Ltd.
office: +66 2 629 4260-2
Fax: +66 2 629 4261
E-Mail: [email protected]
49 Tanao Road Pranakorn
Bangkok 10200
Thailand
Jul 29, 2004 | 12:08 am
#24
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Originally Posted by meadowfield
Dave, I emailed " Circle of Asia" a few weeks ago and got the following reply
"First of all we are sorry to inform you that we are not the airline GSA so we do not issue the airline ticket. To make the confirmed reservation, ticket must be issued in advance as per date set by the airline. We may charge you by credit card but due to our VAT government tax and service charge you may find that our airfare is not cheaper that what you expect. "
retrav1K, Charlie connection details as follows, but I haven't received a reply from him.
Charlie Connection Travel & Tour Ltd.
office: +66 2 629 4260-2
Fax: +66 2 629 4261
E-Mail: [email protected]
49 Tanao Road Pranakorn
Bangkok 10200
Thailand
"First of all we are sorry to inform you that we are not the airline GSA so we do not issue the airline ticket. To make the confirmed reservation, ticket must be issued in advance as per date set by the airline. We may charge you by credit card but due to our VAT government tax and service charge you may find that our airfare is not cheaper that what you expect. "
retrav1K, Charlie connection details as follows, but I haven't received a reply from him.
Charlie Connection Travel & Tour Ltd.
office: +66 2 629 4260-2
Fax: +66 2 629 4261
E-Mail: [email protected]
49 Tanao Road Pranakorn
Bangkok 10200
Thailand
Jul 29, 2004 | 1:44 am
#25
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If you phone +662 254 1333and speak to Anant Kumar you should have no problems. I found him v professional and dealt with the ticketing in no time. Now you mention it, I do seem to recall that when I phoned the CoA number on the website they did give me another number to call
Dave
Dave
Aug 16, 2004 | 11:34 pm
#26
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Sorry, I have yet another question. With the DONE4 ex BKK, would a valid routing in Asia be BKK-PEK ( via HKG) PEK-KIX( via HKG) KIX to HKG using JAL FF points not using the RTW ticket, and then HKG-MEL on CX? This will use 4 flight segments, not counting the HKG-MEL segment. Thanks in anticipation.
Aug 17, 2004 | 1:29 am
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Originally Posted by meadowfield
Sorry, I have yet another question. With the DONE4 ex BKK, would a valid routing in Asia be BKK-PEK ( via HKG) PEK-KIX( via HKG) KIX to HKG using JAL FF points not using the RTW ticket, and then HKG-MEL on CX? This will use 4 flight segments, not counting the HKG-MEL segment. Thanks in anticipation.
Aug 17, 2004 | 6:16 am
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Originally Posted by meadowfield
...would a valid routing in Asia be BKK-(HKG)-PEK, PEK-(HKG)-KIX, KIX to HKG using JAL FF points not using the RTW ticket, and then HKG-MEL on CX?
If you aren't staying in HK, then it may be in the gray area, as you'd have 2 stopovers plus an open-jaw. Does the open jaw count as a stopover? Very possibly, but I don't see anything in the rules that says one way or the other.
Here's what you could do: You could fly BKK-(HKG)-PEK, then PEK-(HKG)-NRT on your RTW. Take the fast train to wherever you want to go in the Kansai. If you wanted to visit Hong Kong, use that JL frequent flyer ticket to go KIX-HKG-NRT; if you didn't want to stay in HKG, take the train back to Tokyo. Then, fly QF NRT-MEL.
Aug 17, 2004 | 9:43 am
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Originally Posted by wideman
If you wanted to stop in HKG, that would seem to be a problem, as that's 3 stopovers in continent of origin.
BKK-xHKG-PEK <stopover>
PEK-(x)HKG-KIX <stopover>
HKG-MEL
That is OK on a OW Explorer ticket in my opinion.
Aug 17, 2004 | 11:23 am
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Originally Posted by christep
I disagree. An open jaw is one stopover, not two. So as far as the OW Explorer ticket is concerned you have:
BKK-xHKG-PEK <stopover>
PEK-(x)HKG-KIX <stopover>
HKG-MEL
That is OK on a OW Explorer ticket in my opinion.
BKK-xHKG-PEK <stopover>
PEK-(x)HKG-KIX <stopover>
HKG-MEL
That is OK on a OW Explorer ticket in my opinion.
But as you have used all Asia segments and stopovers, you must return to BKK directly from the last continent, which is pretty simple with direct flights from both London, Sydney and Melbourne.