AA miles on One World
#1
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Brooklyn, NY 11219
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AA miles on One World
Is it possible to use AA miles for a trip using different one world carriers. If so, how is it calculated and what is the procedure to book it?
Currently I have about 90K and I know that it's very limited but ultimately I want a goal I can reach. For example, I'll be flying out of NY and let say I am interested in going to Austrailia and one of the one world partner has a hub in hawaii that also happens to fly to Austrailia then that'll be really great. Or maybe if I fly Cathay and since their hub is in HK, I can visit HK and then to Austrailia?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Currently I have about 90K and I know that it's very limited but ultimately I want a goal I can reach. For example, I'll be flying out of NY and let say I am interested in going to Austrailia and one of the one world partner has a hub in hawaii that also happens to fly to Austrailia then that'll be really great. Or maybe if I fly Cathay and since their hub is in HK, I can visit HK and then to Austrailia?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
#2


Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally Posted by babywong
Is it possible to use AA miles for a trip using different one world carriers. If so, how is it calculated and what is the procedure to book it?
Currently I have about 90K and I know that it's very limited but ultimately I want a goal I can reach. For example, I'll be flying out of NY and let say I am interested in going to Austrailia and one of the one world partner has a hub in hawaii that also happens to fly to Austrailia then that'll be really great. Or maybe if I fly Cathay and since their hub is in HK, I can visit HK and then to Austrailia?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
Currently I have about 90K and I know that it's very limited but ultimately I want a goal I can reach. For example, I'll be flying out of NY and let say I am interested in going to Austrailia and one of the one world partner has a hub in hawaii that also happens to fly to Austrailia then that'll be really great. Or maybe if I fly Cathay and since their hub is in HK, I can visit HK and then to Austrailia?
Any advice is greatly appreciated.
#3


Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Brooklyn, NY, US
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Originally Posted by babywong
Currently I have about 90K and I know that it's very limited but ultimately I want a goal I can reach. For example, I'll be flying out of NY and let say I am interested in going to Austrailia and one of the one world partner has a hub in hawaii that also happens to fly to Austrailia then that'll be really great. Or maybe if I fly Cathay and since their hub is in HK, I can visit HK and then to Austrailia?Any advice is greatly appreciated.
http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnerType=Air
The ones of most interest (given your query) are:
the all airline award chart:
http://www.aa.com/content/AAdvantage...ne_chart.jhtml
http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnersContent
Those cover most of the basic award options.
If those are too restrictive, you can claim oneworld awards, which are mileage-based:
http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnersContent
I'm not an expert on the new chart and its rules, but from what I understand:
There used to be a Cathay Award that allowed travel from NA to Australia/NZ and South Africa, with stopovers in HKG. However, under the new chart that routing would require two awards- NA to Asia2, Asia2 to South Pacific or a oneworld award.
For a NA to South Pacific award, I believe you're now limited to one stopover- NA to South Pacific might be able to be routed JFK-LAX-HNL(stopover)-SYD-LAX-JFK, but, once again, I don't have any real experience with the new chart. You already have enough miles for a coach ticket to Australia, 35K more to go for a biz ticket!
Last edited by landspeed; May 26, 2004 at 4:09 pm
#4
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Jakarta, Indonesia
Posts: 35
One World Awards
AA has one world awards based on miles flown. For example, CGK - SEZ would count only as travelling 3520 miles (which means using 35 000 economy or 75 000 business) even though the routing would be CGK HKG JNB NBO SEZ (11 780 miles) or possibly CGK HKG LHR NBO SEZ, so it is only the distance between start and end point. You can have as many points as you like, and you have to be sure to use at least 2 different carriers in order to use the ticket.
Details here:
http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnersContent
Details here:
http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnersContent
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I find that very hard to believe - if what you say is true then one could fly more or less indefinitely for the price of one award. My reading of the OneWorld Awards is that it is the actual distance flown which determines the number of miles required.
#6


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Originally Posted by flyinghigh
AA has one world awards based on miles flown. For example, CGK - SEZ would count only as travelling 3520 miles (which means using 35 000 economy or 75 000 business) even though the routing would be CGK HKG JNB NBO SEZ (11 780 miles) or possibly CGK HKG LHR NBO SEZ, so it is only the distance between start and end point. You can have as many points as you like, and you have to be sure to use at least 2 different carriers in order to use the ticket.
Details here:
http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnersContent
Details here:
http://www.aa.com/apps/AAdvantage/Vi...artnersContent
This is not correct. Unless it is a through flight, the miles of each leg add up.
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Originally Posted by christep
I find that very hard to believe - if what you say is true then one could fly more or less indefinitely for the price of one award. My reading of the OneWorld Awards is that it is the actual distance flown which determines the number of miles required.
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Why would someone do that on an award ticket? Stock in Preparation-H? Collects amenity kits? Wants to catch up on movies and too cheap to rent them?
I am sure that at some point the ticket agent will ask you the same thing and probably tell you to stop screwing around and to get to wherever youre going. But airlines do things every day that baffle me and it doesn't mean that whatever they do doesn't exist.
I am sure that at some point the ticket agent will ask you the same thing and probably tell you to stop screwing around and to get to wherever youre going. But airlines do things every day that baffle me and it doesn't mean that whatever they do doesn't exist.
#11


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more discussion of this issue here:
Most efficient OW Award ticket request
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...3&page=1&pp=15
Including examples such as the following:
"You can get fairly creative with the routing. For example, I booked DFW-DEL as part of my RTW, but gave the agent enough restrictions so that the only realistic route was DFW-LAX-HKG-DEL (which I wanted) rather than shorter, and more obvious, routes such as DFW-LHR-DEL.
Result: like the OP stated, it was fairly easy to construct a sub-20k mile OW130C RTW trip, even though actual flown mileage was significantly more than 20k."
Most efficient OW Award ticket request
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...3&page=1&pp=15
Including examples such as the following:
"You can get fairly creative with the routing. For example, I booked DFW-DEL as part of my RTW, but gave the agent enough restrictions so that the only realistic route was DFW-LAX-HKG-DEL (which I wanted) rather than shorter, and more obvious, routes such as DFW-LHR-DEL.
Result: like the OP stated, it was fairly easy to construct a sub-20k mile OW130C RTW trip, even though actual flown mileage was significantly more than 20k."

