Change fee from AA RTW after the first segment
#1
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Change fee from AA RTW after the first segment
I already fly my first segment. HND ->xDFW->BUR(Already flown)
I changed my routing and date, but it still remains DONE4.
When I call AA today for payment, the changing fee is $800+ per person for fare difference + YQ and Tax. I asked them again, then they lower it to $600.
I already flown:
HND -> xDFW -> HND
Before:
BUR -> xDFW -> SCL -> xMIA -> LAX -> ANC -> LAX -> xDOH -> CAI /SAW -> xDOH -> MLE -> xCMB -> PEK -> HND
After:
BUR -> xDFW -> SCL -> xMIA -> LAX -> xDOH -> AMM -> CAI/SAW -> xDOH -> MLE -> xKUL -> PKX/PEK -> HND
- No new continent.
- Routing change is also minimal. I dropped LAX-> ANX -> LAX. Add AMM -> CAI segment.
- MLE -> xCMB -> PEK needs to change to MLE -> xKUL -> BJS because UL does not operate this route around Dec.
Is it normal to have charge fee for reroute. Based on rule, I thought it suppose only be 125 after the first segment.
"2. After departure:
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125. d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value."
I changed my routing and date, but it still remains DONE4.
When I call AA today for payment, the changing fee is $800+ per person for fare difference + YQ and Tax. I asked them again, then they lower it to $600.
I already flown:
HND -> xDFW -> HND
Before:
BUR -> xDFW -> SCL -> xMIA -> LAX -> ANC -> LAX -> xDOH -> CAI /SAW -> xDOH -> MLE -> xCMB -> PEK -> HND
After:
BUR -> xDFW -> SCL -> xMIA -> LAX -> xDOH -> AMM -> CAI/SAW -> xDOH -> MLE -> xKUL -> PKX/PEK -> HND
- No new continent.
- Routing change is also minimal. I dropped LAX-> ANX -> LAX. Add AMM -> CAI segment.
- MLE -> xCMB -> PEK needs to change to MLE -> xKUL -> BJS because UL does not operate this route around Dec.
Is it normal to have charge fee for reroute. Based on rule, I thought it suppose only be 125 after the first segment.
"2. After departure:
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125. d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value."
Last edited by slhu82; Jan 23, 2025 at 3:36 pm
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I already fly my first segment. HND ->xDFW->BUR(Already flown)
I changed my routing and date. removed segement from LAX -> ANC -> LAX
Change from LAX -> xDOH -> CAI to LAX -> xDOH -> AMM, AMM -> CAI.
SAW -> xDOH -> MLE ot IST -> xDOH -> MLE
but it still remains DONE4.
When I call AA today, the changing fee is $800+ per person for fare difference + YQ and Tax. Is it normal. Based on rule, I thought it suppose only be 125 after the first segment.
"2. After departure:
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125. d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value."
I changed my routing and date. removed segement from LAX -> ANC -> LAX
Change from LAX -> xDOH -> CAI to LAX -> xDOH -> AMM, AMM -> CAI.
SAW -> xDOH -> MLE ot IST -> xDOH -> MLE
but it still remains DONE4.
When I call AA today, the changing fee is $800+ per person for fare difference + YQ and Tax. Is it normal. Based on rule, I thought it suppose only be 125 after the first segment.
"2. After departure:
a. Changes are permitted provided ticketed points remain the same.
b. Changes to ticketed points are permitted at a charge of USD 125 per transaction.
c. No Show requires rebooking at a charge of USD 125. d. If the rerouting results in an increase to the number of continents previously charged, the ticket shall be recalculated. Ticket may be reissued to any applicable Explorer fare validating all rules of the new fare except for restrictions on retroactive use. Rerouting fee applies when the resulting fare is less than or equal to the original fare. No refund applies. See Upgrading provisions when recalculation results in a new fare basis at a higher value."
Better if you list the full orignal route and full new route.
SAW = https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sabiha...tional_Airport
#4
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Many *ONE*'s are complicated. Yours is not that complicated.
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Ask for breakdown, maybe higher YQ etc.
RTW is not complicated, they make it complicated.
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<snip>
BUR -> xDFW -> SCL -> xMIA -> LAX -> xDOH -> AMM -> CAI/SAW -> xDOH -> MLE -> xKUL -> BJS/PEK -> HND
- No new continent.
- Routing change is also minimal. I dropped LAX-> ANX -> LAX. Add AMM -> CAI segment.
- MLE -> xCMB -> PEK needs to change to MLE -> xKUL -> BJS because UL does not operate this route around Dec.
<snip>
BUR -> xDFW -> SCL -> xMIA -> LAX -> xDOH -> AMM -> CAI/SAW -> xDOH -> MLE -> xKUL -> BJS/PEK -> HND
- No new continent.
- Routing change is also minimal. I dropped LAX-> ANX -> LAX. Add AMM -> CAI segment.
- MLE -> xCMB -> PEK needs to change to MLE -> xKUL -> BJS because UL does not operate this route around Dec.
<snip>
Are BJS and PEK the same airport?
BJS is the Metropolitan Area Code for the airports in the Chinese capital Beijing (Peking). The airports in Beijing are: Beijing Capital International (PEK) and Beijing-Daxing(PKX).
BJS is the Metropolitan Area Code for the airports in the Chinese capital Beijing (Peking). The airports in Beijing are: Beijing Capital International (PEK) and Beijing-Daxing(PKX).
#8
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Yeah, this is what they are saying. YQ and tax, but refuse to provide detail breakdown.
BTW, I also changed all QR operated flight to AA flight number, I am not sure if it is going to make any diff. QR740 to AA 8226 for YQ and tax
BTW, I also changed all QR operated flight to AA flight number, I am not sure if it is going to make any diff. QR740 to AA 8226 for YQ and tax
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Qatar has lower YQ (AA / BA / CX have the highest). So keep QR flight numbers.
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I end up calculating all fee/YQ difference using ITA between before and after.
AMM -> CAI costs around 130 JOD for YQ and fee = 200 USD.
LAX ->x DOH -> CAI/AMM exact same fee and YQ. Switching from QR to AA will cost 32 dollars.
SAW -> xDOH -> MLE is slightly cheaper than IST -> DOH -> MLE in terms of fee. 1000 TR around 30 USD. IST international departure fee is slightly higher and also I have BA flight for DOH -> MLE
MLE -> xCMB -> PEK costs more than MLE -> xKUL -> PKX. UL charges YQ but MH does not. Change from April to Dec increases fee by 120 USD. Assume no reduction from changing from CMB to KUL
200 + 32 + 30 + 120 + 125 which is around 500. I will call them again to try to ask breakdown.
Then the real question is that if I keep my flight time and route and only change flight number after this time, will it trigger reprice?
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Some times various airlines Manage My Booking that show information that others do not
If you put the PNR in UL manage my booking, it has a tab that can list all the fare compents (of your existing eticket). May be hard to decode
But may or may not work
--> https://www.srilankan.com/en_uk/plan...e-your-booking
QR Qatar MMB acceptes e-ticket number
If you put the PNR in UL manage my booking, it has a tab that can list all the fare compents (of your existing eticket). May be hard to decode
But may or may not work
--> https://www.srilankan.com/en_uk/plan...e-your-booking
QR Qatar MMB acceptes e-ticket number
#15
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Join Date: Mar 2023
Posts: 157
Some times various airlines Manage My Booking that show information that others do not
If you put the PNR in UL manage my booking, it has a tab that can list all the fare compents (of your existing eticket). May be hard to decode
But may or may not work
--> https://www.srilankan.com/en_uk/plan...e-your-booking
QR Qatar MMB acceptes e-ticket number
If you put the PNR in UL manage my booking, it has a tab that can list all the fare compents (of your existing eticket). May be hard to decode
But may or may not work
--> https://www.srilankan.com/en_uk/plan...e-your-booking
QR Qatar MMB acceptes e-ticket number
Thanks for the tip, since I have not paid AA yet, so it shows 0 for everything.

