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Dr. HFH Apr 16, 2025 11:07 am


Originally Posted by headinclouds (Post 37027497)
More info would be helpful for those who may prefer to avoid AA.

IME, the only restriction on AA that I could do without is that one over-water segment has to be AA marketed. I typically do eastbound DONE3s, so that means either U.S. to Doha or Tokyo to Boston. U.S. to Doha is easy to get QR metal with AA codeshare, and for Tokyo to Boston, I really don't care for the J hard product that JL flies on this route, so I take AA metal TYO-DFW-BOS. The AA J hard product is far superior, and I just take my own food with me.

For me, the benefit of dealing with the AA RTW desk on the phone and thus get instant answers from knowledgeable and experienced agents far outweighs the disadvantage of flying AA TPAC but having to book and manage the booking essentially by email.

ademanuele Apr 20, 2025 2:04 am

We are planning our second RTW for March 2026 and will probably use a travel agent again (not using AA or going through the US so can't use AA to book). Our first three flights are with BA so I guess our travel agent will use BA for the booking. Am planning to part with my wife when we get towards the end of our trip in Asia (she will go home from SIN) and to take an additional 4 flights to rack up my TPs. If the RTW tickets are booked with BA will I still get TPs based on distance (proportion of) when using airlines such as CK, JL and QR or will BA base on ticket costs if the ticket is booked through them?

EDIT: in case you are wondering, first three flights on our RTW are OSL-LHR-GIG-EZE


ernestnywang Apr 23, 2025 8:35 am


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 37036938)
Our first three flights are with BA so I guess our travel agent will use BA for the booking.


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 37036938)
EDIT: in case you are wondering, first three flights on our RTW are OSL-LHR-GIG-EZE

LHR-GIG is the one that matters, as it is the first inter-TC flight, so the travel agency system will default the ticketing carrier to BA. However, the agent may choose another ticketing carrier as long as that ticketing carrier's flight is included in your itinerary and if the ticketing carrier is okay with that.

izzik Apr 23, 2025 9:47 am


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 37036938)
We are planning our second RTW for March 2026 and will probably use a travel agent again (not using AA or going through the US so can't use AA to book). Our first three flights are with BA so I guess our travel agent will use BA for the booking. Am planning to part with my wife when we get towards the end of our trip in Asia (she will go home from SIN) and to take an additional 4 flights to rack up my TPs. If the RTW tickets are booked with BA will I still get TPs based on distance (proportion of) when using airlines such as CK, JL and QR or will BA base on ticket costs if the ticket is booked through them?

EDIT: in case you are wondering, first three flights on our RTW are OSL-LHR-GIG-EZE

If you are ticketing BA flight numbers on the codeshares then it's based on GBP.
If you are ticketing Cathay (CX), JL, or QR flight numbers then it's based on distance.
It doesn't matter if it's a BA ticket number 125xxxxxxxxxx.. it's the marketing carrier that determines how things are credited.

https://www.britishairways.com/conte...flights#others

ademanuele Apr 23, 2025 10:37 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37043894)
If you are ticketing BA flight numbers on the codeshares then it's based on GBP.
If you are ticketing Cathay (CX), JL, or QR flight numbers then it's based on distance.
It doesn't matter if it's a BA ticket number 125xxxxxxxxxx.. it's the marketing carrier that determines how things are credited.

https://www.britishairways.com/conte...flights#others

Thanks, I was hoping that was the answer. My concern was that BA know the ticket price.

izzik Apr 23, 2025 12:41 pm


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 37044016)
Thanks, I was hoping that was the answer. My concern was that BA know the ticket price.

BA's website specifically said how they credit. It's only revenue based for AA BA IB marketed flights.

For flights marketed by oneworld or other air partners, you'll earn tier points based on a percentage of how many miles you fly, as well as your booking class and the cabin you fly in, regardless of when it was booked.

There are no changes to how you collect Avios on our partner airlines.


dutch_122 Apr 23, 2025 10:14 pm


Originally Posted by ademanuele (Post 37044016)
Thanks, I was hoping that was the answer. My concern was that BA know the ticket price.


British Airways knows exactly what you have paid for the RTW.

regards

dutch_122

ademanuele Apr 24, 2025 3:13 am


Originally Posted by dutch_122 (Post 37045034)
British Airways knows exactly what you have paid for the RTW.

regards

dutch_122

I hope they follow their own rules and don't exclude RTW. Be good to hear from anyone on a RTW booked with BA since 1st April to confirm that TPs are awarded based on distance (apart from AA, BA and IB).

rob_88 Apr 24, 2025 2:39 pm

I booked a QF ticketed, BA credited DONE in Feb. Flown in Mar/Apr. Non BA/AA segments from 1-Apr credited as distance. I could see the total ticket cost in BA MMB (even with no BA segments). AA segment credited as distance% weighted £ (so absolutely nothing in TPs).

rob_88 Apr 25, 2025 8:18 am

A couple of people PM'd me after this to ask about BA segments - rather than replying one-off:

There weren't any BA segments on my trip, but I could still open up the booking in BA MMB - I had one small necessary AA segment, which credited as spend pro-rated, which I guess is indicative of the way BA segments would land. But given BA and AA have huge surcharges, and now the TP/Avios credit is minimal, I'd avoid them wherever possible. There are enough codeshare options that booking w/ a TA might mean you could maybe fly BA/AA metal if you needed to and get QR or another airline with better nTPs. Feels like a good way to avoid some of the nonsense given there's no longer a minimum BA segment count for Gold :)

izzik Apr 25, 2025 11:04 am

That is ideally the way to go, using a TA and booking the codeshares you want. I don't understand why there's so much hesitation in using a TA... Yes, there's a fee involved but it's not a big ask. Fee would be outweighed by savings in surcharges.

brightstar100 Apr 25, 2025 11:40 am


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37048356)
That is ideally the way to go, using a TA and booking the codeshares you want. I don't understand why there's so much hesitation in using a TA... Yes, there's a fee involved but it's not a big ask. Fee would be outweighed by savings in surcharges.

Are you able to recommend a TA? Or should I just go to Amex Platinum Travel? Thank you.

ademanuele Apr 25, 2025 11:41 am


Originally Posted by brightstar100 (Post 37048434)
Are you able to recommend a TA? Or should I just go to Amex Platinum Travel? Thank you.

We used Trailfinders and found them excellent.

Boreas Apr 25, 2025 9:21 pm

nufnuf77 is brilliant and works for Propeller Travel. I understand he recently helped golfmad book his famous two trips around the world.

izzik Apr 26, 2025 6:12 am

There's also this post:
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/36134450-post1.html



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