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rob_88 May 31, 2025 9:54 pm

Interestingly... On an AA ticketed DGLOB34, I was awarded Distance Based TPs for an AA leg (AA marketed & operated)

Given AA issued the ticket, and charged me directly, they definitely know the value is this segment.

An earlier BA segment on the same ticket got Spend based TPs

Still waiting on the EI/JL and soon to fly QR legs to post, but I was pleasantly surprised to see AA land a few hundred extra.

eznh Jun 1, 2025 2:39 am


Originally Posted by rob_88 (Post 37119834)
Interestingly... On an AA ticketed DGLOB34, I was awarded Distance Based TPs for an AA leg (AA marketed & operated).

Were the Avios distance-based?

rob_88 Jun 1, 2025 2:50 am


Originally Posted by eznh (Post 37120066)
Were the Avios distance-based?

Yes

izzik Jun 1, 2025 10:21 am


Originally Posted by rob_88 (Post 37119834)
Interestingly... On an AA ticketed DGLOB34, I was awarded Distance Based TPs for an AA leg (AA marketed & operated)

Given AA issued the ticket, and charged me directly, they definitely know the value is this segment.

An earlier BA segment on the same ticket got Spend based TPs

Still waiting on the EI/JL and soon to fly QR legs to post, but I was pleasantly surprised to see AA land a few hundred extra.

Was the AA leg connecting to/from another OW carrier (not BA/IB) on the same day/trip?

I have seen AA marketed/operated flight credit to AA as distance based in this scenario HND-DFW (JL) connecting to DFW-RNO (AA).

rob_88 Jun 1, 2025 7:16 pm


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37120674)
Was the AA leg connecting to/from another OW carrier (not BA/IB) on the same day/trip?

I have seen AA marketed/operated flight credit to AA as distance based in this scenario HND-DFW (JL) connecting to DFW-RNO (AA).

Yeah it was, AA domestic connecting into JAL.

Interesting loophole here, and definitely opens up some more creative routes for TP/Avios optimisation on these tickets. I had only put a single short AA leg in there to trigger booking eligibility on AA.

izzik Jun 2, 2025 9:47 am

That's a big assumption.. BA rules say that AA marketed should post as revenue, not distance based.. but YMMV.

nufnuf77 Jun 22, 2025 10:35 am

I am definitely curious about the AA segments posting as distance based and there doesnt seem to be hard rule on it.

I am looking at doing the usual

TYO-DEL-HKG-JFK-LAX-DOH-LHR-DXB-LHR-HKG-SIN-TYO just for fun in D and need the CX segments marketed by AA (cx pitiful 25% earning doesnt appeal. do you guys have any more observations on the distance on AA marketed flights?

izzik Jun 22, 2025 1:54 pm


Originally Posted by nufnuf77 (Post 37161852)
I am definitely curious about the AA segments posting as distance based and there doesnt seem to be hard rule on it.

I am looking at doing the usual

TYO-DEL-HKG-JFK-LAX-DOH-LHR-DXB-LHR-HKG-SIN-TYO just for fun in D and need the CX segments marketed by AA (cx pitiful 25% earning doesnt appeal. do you guys have any more observations on the distance on AA marketed flights?

I would not book a RTW ticket based on the assumption that AA would post as distance based instead of revenue based.
If you need a transpacific AA marketed segment, I would suggest TYO-HNL AA marketed JL operated.
from there, you could do hnl-sea-anc-lax-doh-lhr-doh-ams-doh-sel-hkg-del-tyo. Maximize AS in domestic US and QR

littlevoices Jun 22, 2025 5:57 pm


Originally Posted by nufnuf77 (Post 37161852)
I am definitely curious about the AA segments posting as distance based and there doesnt seem to be hard rule on it.

My last AA flights (DFW-HNL) on a DONE4, 9 April, posted as:
Total GBP Eligible Spend: GBP465.xx
But the tier points posted on distance based (1867 nTPs / 4191 Avios)


This was booked via the AA RTW ticket desk, in November 2024, so before the big announcement. Good luck in working out which way these post, my next bunch of AA marketed flights aren't going to be for a while anyway (as you say, much better than raw CX earning)

Dr. HFH Jun 23, 2025 3:49 am


Originally Posted by nufnuf77 (Post 37161852)
TYO-DEL-HKG-JFK-LAX-DOH-LHR-DXB-LHR-HKG-SIN-TYO just for fun in D

You can pick up a couple of hundred miles by replacing DOH-LHR-DXB-LHR with DOH-DUB-DOH-LHR.

headinclouds Jul 13, 2025 11:20 am


Originally Posted by rob_88 (Post 37119834)
Interestingly... On an AA ticketed DGLOB34, I was awarded Distance Based TPs for an AA leg (AA marketed & operated)

Given AA issued the ticket, and charged me directly, they definitely know the value is this segment.

An earlier BA segment on the same ticket got Spend based TPs


Originally Posted by izzik (Post 37120674)
Was the AA leg connecting to/from another OW carrier (not BA/IB) on the same day/trip?

I have seen AA marketed/operated flight credit to AA as distance based in this scenario HND-DFW (JL) connecting to DFW-RNO (AA).


Originally Posted by rob_88 (Post 37121422)
Yeah it was, AA domestic connecting into JAL.

Interesting loophole here, and definitely opens up some more creative routes for TP/Avios optimisation on these tickets. I had only put a single short AA leg in there to trigger booking eligibility on AA.

Based upon the above, would an int'l transit of less than 24 hours cause the AA flight to be distance earning for nTP's?

I'm thinking that a LHR/CDG connection onto an AA flight from QR/AY could work.

And is it a given that AA/BA/IB flights are nTP earning based upon revenue? The prior examples had avios earned based upon spend while TP's were distance based earnings.

tim1000 Aug 17, 2025 4:55 pm

how did the ticket get mangled?

tim1000 Aug 17, 2025 4:56 pm

Can you explain how to mangle a ticket to get distance based earning?

tim1000 Aug 17, 2025 5:15 pm

Hi all

So i have been workign with NafNaf77 on rtw flights (have booked 3 so far). And i can highty recommend. I am GFL so my challange is not to maximise nTPs on a RTW ticket but how to max BA earned nTPs to keep GGL. I typically take 4or5 RTW tickets a year but if based on spend alone my BA flight earned ntp will not be high enough, to retain GGL.

Has anyone had any experience of getting BA segments of DONEX flights nTPs credited according to distance rather than fare? if so how (feel free to DM if you prefer)

Mwenenzi Aug 17, 2025 6:14 pm


Originally Posted by tim1000 (Post 37268832)
how did the ticket get mangled?


Originally Posted by tim1000 (Post 37268834)
Can you explain how to mangle a ticket to get distance based earning?


Originally Posted by tim1000 (Post 37268867)
So i have been workign with NafNaf77 on rtw flights (have booked 3 so far). And i can highty recommend. I am GFL so my challange is not to maximise nTPs on a RTW ticket but how to max BA earned nTPs to keep GGL. I typically take 4or5 RTW tickets a year but if based on spend alone my BA flight earned ntp will not be high enough, to retain GGL.

Has anyone had any experience of getting BA segments of DONEX flights nTPs credited according to distance rather than fare? if so how (feel free to DM if you prefer)

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