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mgkelly Mar 27, 2022 9:20 am

One World Ruby benefits checked baggage
 
Am I right in thinking the policy has changed.
It used to be a mess for in that BA haf no extra checked bag in economy but AA for example did.

I am flying on a handbaggage fare outbound operated by BA but inbound operated by AA.

Looks like I need to purchased checked bags both ways now .Anyone confirm?

cant find any recent posts which i expected if the policy has changed

ernestnywang Mar 27, 2022 11:31 am


Originally Posted by mgkelly (Post 34111076)
Am I right in thinking the policy has changed.
It used to be a mess for in that BA haf no extra checked bag in economy but AA for example did.

I am flying on a handbaggage fare outbound operated by BA but inbound operated by AA.

Looks like I need to purchased checked bags both ways now .Anyone confirm?

cant find any recent posts which i expected if the policy has changed

Are both flights BA-marketed (=BA coded on the ticket)? If so, BA rule applies. It may be possible the AAgent would give you 1 for free on the inbound, given AA rule does give 1 bag for free for Ruby members, but consider yourself lucky if you get that, as this is not an entitlement.

mgkelly Mar 27, 2022 12:24 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 34111411)
Are both flights BA-marketed (=BA coded on the ticket)? If so, BA rule applies. It may be possible the AAgent would give you 1 for free on the inbound, given AA rule does give 1 bag for free for Ruby members, but consider yourself lucky if you get that, as this is not an entitlement.

Thanks for reply.
Adding even more confusion it is a Finnar marketed flight out bound and AA inbound. I purchased on finnair website
outbound is a Finnar flight number operated by BA
inbound is an AA flight number operated by AA

I do wish they could standardise as even handluggage sizes are different which can cause issue but I know that AA are usually more lenient on that.

Mwenenzi Mar 27, 2022 2:38 pm


Originally Posted by mgkelly (Post 34111076)
Am I right in thinking the policy has changed.
It used to be a mess for in that BA haf no extra checked bag in economy but AA for example did.
I am flying on a hand baggage fare outbound operated by BA but inbound operated by AA.
Looks like I need to purchased checked bags both ways now .Anyone confirm?
Cant find any recent posts which I expected if the policy has changed

OW ruby is the lowest tier. Have few benefits. Baggage has never been a OWR benefits
OW benefits have not changed for a long time (ever?)
OWS has *extra* baggage , which is not the same as free baggage.
Airlines can have policies for their own frequent flyers and/or on own flights which can be more than OW policy.
https://www.oneworld.com/travel-benefits [Go to the bottom of the web page]

Is you ticket a basic fare? Depending on who is operating, marketed, status & purchased from these so called joint venture flights have big differences.
BA forum has a good thread--->https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/brit...omy-fares.html

ernestnywang Mar 27, 2022 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by mgkelly (Post 34111533)
Thanks for reply.
Adding even more confusion it is a Finnar marketed flight out bound and AA inbound. I purchased on finnair website
outbound is a Finnar flight number operated by BA
inbound is an AA flight number operated by AA

I do wish they could standardise as even handluggage sizes are different which can cause issue but I know that AA are usually more lenient on that.

Bag rule follows that of AY's, both ways. I tried to price an example itinerary below and boldfaced the most relevant parts:
Code:

1 AY5515O 01JUL 5 LHRJFK GK1  1435  1730  /E
 2 AA 142B 03JUL 7 JFKLHR SS1  1040  2235  /DCAA /E
WPSLONĄTLON<<
PSGR TYPE  ADT - 01
    CXR RES DATE  FARE BASIS      NVB  NVA    BG
 LON
 NYC AY  O  01JUL OKW8C1B4        01JUL 01JUL NIL
 LON AA  B  03JUL OKW8C1B4        02JUL 01JUL NIL
FARE  GBP    61.00 
TAX  GBP    84.00GB GBP    56.06UB GBP    290.30XT
TOTAL GBP    491.36
ADT-01  OKW8C1B4
 LON AY NYC41.30AA LON41.30NUC82.60END ROE0.738341
XT GBP29.80US GBP4.60YC GBP5.30XY GBP3.00XA GBP4.20AY
XT GBP240.00YR GBP3.40XFJFK4.5
ENDOS*SEG1*NONREFUNDABLE/RESTRICTIONS APPLY
ENDOS*SEG2*NONREF/BASIC
TKT/TL30MAR22/2359
ATTN*VALIDATING CARRIER - AY
ATTN*BAG ALLOWANCE    -LHRJFK-NIL/AY
ATTN*1STCHECKED BAG FEE-LHRJFK-GBP60.00/AY/UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 K
ATTN*ILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS
ATTN*2NDCHECKED BAG FEE-LHRJFK-GBP75.00/AY/UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 K
ATTN*ILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS
ATTN*BAG ALLOWANCE    -JFKLHR-NIL/AY
ATTN*1STCHECKED BAG FEE-JFKLHR-GBP60.00/AY/UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 K
ATTN*ILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS
ATTN*2NDCHECKED BAG FEE-JFKLHR-GBP75.00/AY/UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 K
ATTN*ILOGRAMS AND UP TO 62 LINEAR INCHES/158 LINEAR CENTIMETERS
ATTN*CARRY ON ALLOWANCE
ATTN*LHRJFK-01P/BA
ATTN*01/UP TO 34 LINEAR INCHES/85 LINEAR CENTIMETERS
ATTN*01/UP TO 50 POUNDS/23 KILOGRAMS AND UP TO 50 POUNDS/127 LI
ATTN*NEAR CENTIMETERS
ATTN*JFKLHR-02P/AA
ATTN*01/UP TO 40 LINEAR INCHES/101 LINEAR CENTIMETERS
ATTN*01/UP TO 45 LINEAR INCHES/115 LINEAR CENTIMETERS
ATTN*CARRY ON CHARGES
ATTN*LHRJFK-BA-CARRY ON FEES UNKNOWN-CONTACT CARRIER
ATTN*ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCES AND/OR DISCOUNTS MAY APPLY

However, https://www.aa.com/i18n/travel-info/...age-policy.jsp mentions 1 bag is free for Ruby members, without mentioning any exceptions (ticket plated on another carrier, another carrier's rule applies, etc.). I believe there is a good chance you can get the free bag on your inbound, but note there is a recent experience indicating the contrary: https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/amer...enefits-4.html

In short, I don't think anyone can give you a clear answer. You will have to try your luck.

I believe if you had purchased this itinerary from AA.com with AA-coded flights both ways, you would actually have a 01P bag allowance written on the ticket, but that's based on vague memory and experience from a few years ago.

ernestnywang Mar 27, 2022 2:45 pm


Originally Posted by mgkelly (Post 34111533)
I do wish they could standardise as even handluggage sizes are different which can cause issue but I know that AA are usually more lenient on that.

I forgot to say carry-on bag allowance always follow that of the operating carrier. You can see the price quote above says BA rule for outbound and AA rule for inbound.


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