Oneworld product pricing - PLEASE READ
 

I am taking the initiative to modifying the existing sticky thread regarding Oneworld "booking experiences" to include "pricing" experiences. I will be moving existing or new threads that describe pricing of various Oneworld products to that thread.

The reason for this is that, out of what might be an excess of caution, I'm going to move discussions of "deals" to a slightly more opaque location. While it's probably unlikely that airline sources monitor this board to spot "mistake" fares, or product fares that suddenly become "bargains" due to things like currency fluctuations, there might be some risk that can be mitigated - a little - by removing those fares from thread titles, for example. It might or might not work, but it probably can't hurt.

Comments on this thread or via PM are welcome.

Gardyloo
Oneworld moderator

Certainly worth a try. While I agree that the airlines may not monitor this board, we do; and when the ticket volume picks up as we all rush to buy the tickets, that will tip them off.

Come on, it was just a coincidence that we all needed to get to KRT, MPM, and CAI in the past. ;)

Of course it was. But I go back to MRU, in the late 2000s. ;)

And to JNB and BUD before that.;)

And SEL in the mid-2000's. CAI was a good deal then as well, though my very 1st one was from CPT since JNB was 'dangerous'.

Oh, yeah, I remember the MRU days. I did a lot of planning for one of those, but never went through with it.

i started late.. my first was ex KIX in 2015... oh well. working to book my 7th one!

I was doing two or three per year back then. The BA team in MRU didn't really understand the rules, and I got away with a lot!

what was the deal back then?

Not as good as some of the recent deals.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/onew...30-2006-a.html See post 23 and 24.

life was fairly good back then. good price at many places.

Good prices at many places that didn't actually have oneworld service. Also, that was back when you had to have a TA in the country of origin or try for the Canadian exemption.

price seems to have gone up uniformly over many countries. as i have connection in Canada, i dont think it is impossible for me to do the Canadian exemption.

i think oneworld is kind of smart to get rid country of origin as the airlines get direct feedback from agents about the good pricing in many places. hence, mpm, cai were shut off very fast.
it is probably harder for any deal to last if people keep on calling AA saying we get DONEx for 4000 USD.. they will send feedback to higher up to pull the fare.

The Canadian exception was removed along with the restriction to which it was an exception.

Exactly, anabolism. Important distinction, too.

I understand the Pakistani rupee has been devalued significantly in recent days. I don't follow that market but maybe it has had some impact on xONEx pricing.

In USD:

DONE3 $5576
DONE4 $6379
DONE5 $7567
DONE6 $8363

AONEx are all higher than that.

On December 6, 2017, PKR was 105.39188 to the dollar. Yesterday's close was at 137.45141 to the dollar. (data from xe.com)

EF just gave me these numbers, using KHI as the POS, and all in USD. First number is price if issued by AA or QR, second number is price if issued by BA. I didn't check any other airlines.

DONE3: 5330.62 5353.66
DONE4: 6098.35 6121.39
DONE5: 7233.42 7256.46
DONE6: 7994.74 8017.89

AONE3: 9537.97 9561.01
AONE4: 10964.97 10988.01
AONE5: 12117.21 12140.25
AONE6: 14001.48 14024.52

Looks like about USD $23 more for a BA issued ticket. Any ideas what that's about? LHR taxes are much higher than that, no?

And interestingly, just checking other possible purchase points in my life, there's an L fare but no DONEx or AONEx fare ex-BKK listed on EF. Any ideas?

I'm seeing ex-BKK DONEn and AONEn fares in EF
(chose QF, QR and JL as the airlines - all three are showing the fares)

Ah, that's it. OK, thanks.

EF is showing base fares, no taxes. I'm not sure why BA shows slightly more than others.

My prices were also pulled from EF for ISB. The slight difference in carrier pricing is something I have seen before. We all have seen big spreads between carriers before (e.g. when there was a large deval and one carrier is slow to update their fare). I'm sure BA updated their fare more recently hence the slight difference.

Remember the good old days, the Canadian exception! I was able to purchase 1. But when I was trying to book another one, it was shut off already!
I started from AMM with a DONE3. I had posted a trip report on that RTW, and you can find it below (if you so wish):
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/trip...dventures.html

[QUOTE=skunker;30499858 I'm sure BA updated their fare more recently hence the slight difference.[/QUOTE]

FYI and possibly relevant, BA recently announced the return of LHR ISB from next summer.

Ex-KHI prices seem to be down between USD $50 and $100. This must be due to currency fluctuation.

Price increases, rule changes coming
 

I was just informed that RTW fares will be going up imminently, especially OSL and possibly other Europe originations. I was also told there will be some unspecified rule changes, and that the rule about Australian trans-cons is more restrictive now, only one transcan total (it used to be interpreted as allowing up to three trans-cons as long as each line is only used one, now it is only one line total).

I hope its not down to me. I'm part way through an ex-OSL DONE5 which includes ....SYD-DRW-PER..... !!!!!!!

I have an RTW that auto-priced last year with pretty much that routing (SYD-PER-DRW-SYD), tried to do something very similar a few days ago, was told no. Separately, a TA told me a new DONE4 won't auto-price with SYD-PER-DRW-MEL.

Can confirm that the prices ex OSL have increased significantly. Expert flyer has yet to update.

Sorry that my information was correct. Just curious, where are you seeing the higher fare, and how much is it now?

I still see the old prices in EF, so possibly someone could autoprice and ticket ex-OSL at the old price if they do it immediately. I won't be in a position to purchase for another six weeks or so.

Do you see that the ex-ARN fare has also changed or is it the same ($6823.51 USD)?

Called AA RTW desk on both Friday and Saturday. Told both times the ex OSL DONE4 price is US$10,299 Did not ask about other prices

Oh no! I was planning to book a DONE4 for 2 in early July. Originating in NRT. It's for a departure in January. I'm travelling for the next 3 weeks so I was planning to take care of it when I get back. Should I try to book now or I'm already too late & the price increase as occured? My itinerary is valid & priced on the OW planning tool. I just have not called the AA RTW desk to book it yet.

I was specifically told that OSL and probably other European originations are going up, and that NRT would be much cheaper than Europe, so you should be OK.

Unfortunately, I expect that that doesn't mean a price drop ex-NRT, but rather that ex-NRT prices aren't going up. :(

That's been the ex-USA price for a DONE4 for years. I suspect you got one or more noobs at the RTW desk who didn't know/care how to pull the correct fare. Not saying it's wrong, just suspicious.

That is what I thought also and explains why I called back Saturday. Seems unloikely that AA will be consistently so wrong, but again maybe not.
Will try again tomorrow.

I don't think anyone expected it would mean a price drop. I certainly never intended to suggest it. It seemed obvious to me that it meant that ex-Europe prices would become more than ex-Japan, and together with the information that ex-Europe prices would be going up, the obvious implication is that ex-Japan prices would either remain the same or go up but not by as much.

Thanks for the heads up! Not sure when the price increase would come about & the changes in rules or if it would event affect a departure from NRT but i didn't want to take any chances. So I pulled the trigger & purchased my RTW tickets today.

Smart.