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wingzing Jun 20, 2019 7:20 am

OSL is still pricing at $5,998/$6,634/$7,577 on both Expertflyer and the on-line oneworld tool (for DONE3/DONE4/DONE5).

Pakistani Rupee is falling. KHI is now $4,760/$5,446/$6,460

allset2travel Jun 20, 2019 6:26 pm


Originally Posted by wingzing (Post 31221977)
OSL is still pricing at $5,998/$6,634/$7,577 on both Expertflyer and the on-line oneworld tool (for DONE3/DONE4/DONE5).

Pakistani Rupee is falling. KHI is now $4,760/$5,446/$6,460

Great to know that. So now ex-OSL is cheaper than ex-NRT in all DONEx itins.
I just checked EF shows ex-NRT to be: $6,059 / $7,204 / $8,264 / $9030.

Let hear from those who try to start from KHI. Pakistan is a little shaky for me personally. Never been to Pakistan though.

Be interesting to see how people structure their itins with ex-KHI.

jerry a. laska Jun 20, 2019 8:57 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 31224010)
Great to know that. So now ex-OSL is cheaper than ex-NRT in all DONEx itins.
I just checked EF shows ex-NRT to be: $6,059 / $7,204 / $8,264 / $9030.

Let hear from those who try to start from KHI. Pakistan is a little shaky for me personally. Never been to Pakistan though.

Be interesting to see how people structure their itins with ex-KHI.

I was hoping Dr. HFH would lead the way and take one for the team with regard to ex-Pakistan (just kidding) but I think he has decided to just stick to more traditional starting points.

Dr. HFH Jun 21, 2019 6:32 pm


Originally Posted by jerry a. laska (Post 31224347)
I was hoping Dr. HFH would lead the way and take one for the team with regard to ex-Pakistan (just kidding) but I think he has decided to just stick to more traditional starting points.

Thanks for the shout-out, Jerry. True, unless the price differential between CMB and Pakistan improves, I'll stick with Sri Lanka for now. However, as wingzing pointed out, things are continually changing. Right now I see IONE3 ex-CMB at USD $5,410.43, and ex-KHI at USD $4,663.28. SO at roughly USD $750, we're starting to approach a price differential that I would consider sufficiently attractive.

Then there's the issue of scheduling. I would need to be able to schedule in and out with maybe a few hours. I'm not interested in a 10 hour connection in Pakistan, such as the one I'm in the middle of right now at NRT. I can be pretty flexible on origin and destination airports; but I really have no interest in that long a layover at KHI.

Speaking of NRT, be aware that the regular Sakura F lounge in the main building is currently closed for renovation. It's apparently being replaced temporarily (I hope) by a smaller windowless F lounge upstairs. And I was just informed that the Sakura F lounge in the satellite terminal is closed between 1100 and 1500. So I guess that I'll be heading

serfty Jun 24, 2019 4:55 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 31227273)
...
Speaking of NRT, be aware that the regular Sakura F lounge in the main building is currently closed for renovation. It's apparently being replaced temporarily (I hope) by a smaller windowless F lounge upstairs. And I was just informed that the Sakura F lounge in the satellite terminal is closed between 1100 and 1500. So I guess that I'll be heading

It's been under renovation since November. At one stage they were restricting entry to PAX on JL flights.

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/japa...e-closure.html

allset2travel Jun 24, 2019 5:31 pm


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 31227273)
Thanks for the shout-out, Jerry. True, unless the price differential between CMB and Pakistan improves, I'll stick with Sri Lanka for now. However, as wingzing pointed out, things are continually changing. Right now I see IONE3 ex-CMB at USD $5,410.43, and ex-KHI at USD $4,663.28. SO at roughly USD $750, we're starting to approach a price differential that I would consider sufficiently attractive.

Then there's the issue of scheduling. I would need to be able to schedule in and out with maybe a few hours. I'm not interested in a 10 hour connection in Pakistan, such as the one I'm in the middle of right now at NRT. I can be pretty flexible on origin and destination airports; but I really have no interest in that long a layover at KHI.

Speaking of NRT, be aware that the regular Sakura F lounge in the main building is currently closed for renovation. It's apparently being replaced temporarily (I hope) by a smaller windowless F lounge upstairs. And I was just informed that the Sakura F lounge in the satellite terminal is closed between 1100 and 1500. So I guess that I'll be heading

My BOLD
Did you say those fares were for LONE3? Was that from EF?
EF LONE3 ex-CMB is $2512; and ex-KHI is $2163

anabolism Jun 24, 2019 6:04 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 31235908)
My BOLD
Did you say those fares were for LONE3? Was that from EF?
EF LONE3 ex-CMB is $2512; and ex-KHI is $2163

The quoted fares are for IONE3, not LONE3. There are only a few I-based fares available.

Currently, EF reports:
ex-HKI IONE3 $4663.28USD; DONE3 $4758.44USD
ex-CMB IONE3 $5410.43USD; DONE3 $6216.98USD.

I-based fares obviously must be booked into I (or the designated coach inventory), which is less available than D.

allset2travel Jun 24, 2019 6:30 pm

My bad!

Dr. HFH Jun 24, 2019 7:32 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 31235908)
Did you say those fares were for LONE3? Was that from EF?

IONE3 from EF.

Dr. HFH Jul 25, 2019 5:26 am

Does anyone know if there's a way to get the final, all-in cost without pricing segment-by-segment on Matrix for taxes, fees, etc.?

anabolism Jul 27, 2019 5:01 am


Originally Posted by Dr. HFH (Post 31340461)
Does anyone know if there's a way to get the final, all-in cost without pricing segment-by-segment on Matrix for taxes, fees, etc.?

If you can put up with the online booking tool and can get it to price a similar itinerary, that can give you an all-in cost. Or if you know a travel agent who uses Sabre, they can create an itinerary and autoprice it.

anabolism Aug 12, 2019 10:00 am

I saw a news report that the Argentine Peso has crashed. Checked EF, it's showing prices as 0ARS:


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...06a09f2a90.png
ex-EZE priced in ARS

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...04bc9c288a.png
ex-EZE priced in USD

allset2travel Aug 12, 2019 12:00 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 31407588)
I saw a news report that the Argentine Peso has crashed. Checked EF, it's showing prices as 0ARS:


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...06a09f2a90.png
ex-EZE priced in ARS

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...04bc9c288a.png
ex-EZE priced in USD

Almost like starting in the US! Smart move on oneworld's part to price ex-EZE in US$ as the local currency is tanking.

Dr. HFH Aug 12, 2019 3:58 pm

There's an IGLOB fare but not an IONE fare?

anabolism Aug 12, 2019 5:34 pm


Originally Posted by allset2travel (Post 31408102)
Almost like starting in the US! Smart move on oneworld's part to price ex-EZE in US$ as the local currency is tanking.

Too bad we can't book using the ARS price!

pandaperth Aug 13, 2019 5:48 am

The base fares of Oneworld Explorer tickets originating anywhere in South America have been published in USD since at least 2012

So if you were paying in ARS, the USD price would be converted to ARS at the then exchange rate.

(For a brief period in 2013 the Rule Sheet for the Oneworld Explorer included the world-wide base fares. I kept a copy. South American base fares were in USD)

anabolism Aug 13, 2019 4:47 pm

I meant because EF shows the ARS price as 0 (per my post).

pyffii Aug 28, 2019 11:21 pm

Hi All
Looking for some help pricing a DONE4 ex Japan and a DONE4 and DONE5 ex Johannesburg
Thanks in advance

pandaperth Aug 29, 2019 5:17 am


Originally Posted by pyffii (Post 31468643)
Hi All
Looking for some help pricing a DONE4 ex Japan and a DONE4 and DONE5 ex Johannesburg
Thanks in advance

Are you asking what the base fares are?
They are:
ex-Japan DONE4 JPY780,400
ex-Sth Af DONE4 ZAR102,000
ex-Sth Af DONE5 ZAR116,000
(source expertflyer)

pyffii Aug 29, 2019 5:29 am


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 31469293)
Are you asking what the base fares are?
They are:
ex-Japan DONE4 JPY780,400
ex-Sth Af DONE4 ZAR102,000
ex-Sth Af DONE5 ZAR116,000
(source expertflyer)

Many thanks Pandaperth

Brianek Dec 26, 2019 12:18 pm

Done5 ex-khi/cmb/sa
 
Could someone who currently has a subscription to EF please post the current base fares for a DONE5 ex-KHI, CMB and South Africa. Is anyone aware of a more cost effective place to start than these three currently ? Also, I assume the Oneword Explorer tickets are currently better value than the Star Alliance RTW tickets - would be interested to know if anyone thinks others. About to book a couple of RTW's and trying to work out the best place to start.

pandaperth Dec 27, 2019 12:39 am


Originally Posted by Brianek (Post 31878161)
Could someone who currently has a subscription to EF please post the current base fares for a DONE5 ex-KHI, CMB and South Africa. Is anyone aware of a more cost effective place to start than these three currently ? Also, I assume the Oneword Explorer tickets are currently better value than the Star Alliance RTW tickets - would be interested to know if anyone thinks others. About to book a couple of RTW's and trying to work out the best place to start.

From Expertflyer, the DONE5 base fares are:
USD...From
6357 Pakistan
7144 Sri Lanka
8201 South Africa

and
7434 Norway
8185 Japan
(I think that covers all the low priced points of origin)

Brianek Jan 12, 2020 6:49 pm

Cheers mate - much appreciated :)

ACN Consultant Mar 19, 2020 3:49 pm

OSL RTW pricing with devaluation
 
Looks like DONE prices have come down quite a bit to just over $5K USD for a DONE3 ex-OSL

Unterwegs Mar 20, 2020 1:14 am

Do you know how to find the AONE prices? Since you can have the first flight 12 month after you bought the ticket and then have another 12 month to finish you could book something for next year - hopefully then things are back to normal.

pandaperth Mar 20, 2020 4:06 am

Prices ex-Norway are unchanged (they are the same price in the local currency as they were last month)
What has happened is that the NOK has fallen ~20% against the USD - probably a combination of the pandemic and the steep fall in oil prices

1st class base fares are:
AONE3 - NOK91902
AONE4 - NOK106047
AONE5 - NOK118125
AONE6 - NOK135981
and the exchange right now is 1USD=10.93NOK
so the AONE3 base fare is about USD8400

(sources: expertflyer.com and xe.com)

danger Mar 20, 2020 9:26 pm

Travel Dealz reports the Norwegian krone has lost significant value in recent days. These are now the prices in USD and it seems Norway now may be the cheapest point of origin.

DONE3: USD4847
DONE4: USD5362
DONE5: USD6123
DONE6: USD6932

(From ExpertFlyer.)

tkelvin69 Mar 27, 2020 1:31 pm


Originally Posted by danger (Post 32213298)
Travel Dealz reports the Norwegian krone has lost significant value in recent days. These are now the prices in USD and it seems Norway now may be the cheapest point of origin.

DONE3: USD4847
DONE4: USD5362
DONE5: USD6123
DONE6: USD6932

(From ExpertFlyer.)

even with the 25% increase of the dollar vs zar?

anabolism Mar 27, 2020 4:39 pm


Originally Posted by tkelvin69 (Post 32239024)
even with the 25% increase of the dollar vs zar?

OSL:
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...5fbde5fbf7.png

JNB:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.fly...c1b6867f29.png

tkelvin69 Apr 8, 2020 11:34 am

I just tried a DONE4 from the RTW site originating OSL and it prices in Euro. ???

ernestnywang Apr 8, 2020 2:35 pm


Originally Posted by tkelvin69 (Post 32276086)
I just tried a DONE4 from the RTW site originating OSL and it prices in Euro. ???

Fare is still in NOK in GDS.

Code:

FQOSLOSL‡BD«                                                   
OSL-OSL      SHOP        THU 09APR20                    NOK 
//SEE FQHELP FOR INFORMATION ABOUT THE NEW FARE DISPLAYS//     
  SURCHARGE FOR PAPER TICKET MAY BE ADDED WHEN ITIN PRICED     
**    OSLOSL.RW      09APR20          MPM                   
  V  FARE BASIS  AP FARE-OW    FARE-RT CX BK  SEASON  MINMAX 
  1    DONE3      ‡              52398 AA D‡  ---      -/12M 
  2    DONE3      ‡              52398 AY D‡  ---      -/12M 
  3    DONE3      ‡              52398 BA D‡  ---      -/12M 
  4    DONE3      ‡              52398 CX D‡  ---      -/‡‡ 
  5    DONE3      ‡              52398 IB D‡  ---      -/12M 
  6    DONE3      ‡              52398 JL D‡  ---      -/12M 
  7    DONE3      ‡              52398 LA D‡  ---      -/12M 
  8    DONE3      ‡              52398 MH D‡  ---      -/12M 
  9    DONE3      ‡              52398 QF D‡  ---      -/12M 
 10    DONE3      ‡              52398 QR D‡  ---      -/12M 
 11    DONE3      ‡              52398 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
 12    DONE3      ‡              52398 S7 D‡  ---      -/12M 
 13    DONE3      ‡              52398 UL D    ---      -/12M 
 14    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 AA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 15    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 AY D‡  ---      -/12M 
 16    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 BA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 17    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 CX D‡  ---      -/12M 
 18    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 IB D‡  ---      -/12M ‡
MD«                                                           
 19    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 JL D‡  ---      -/12M ‡
 20    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 LA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 21    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 MH D‡  ---      -/12M 
 22    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 QF D‡  ---      -/12M 
 23    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 QR D‡  ---      -/12M 
 24    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
 25    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 S7 D‡  ---      -/12M 
 26    DGLOB34    ‡              57359 UL D    ---      -/12M 
 27    DONE4      ‡              57959 AA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 28    DONE4      ‡              57959 AY D‡  ---      -/12M 
 29    DONE4      ‡              57959 BA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 30    DONE4      ‡              57959 CX D‡  ---      -/‡‡ 
 31    DONE4      ‡              57959 IB D‡  ---      -/12M 
 32    DONE4      ‡              57959 JL D‡  ---      -/12M 
 33    DONE4      ‡              57959 LA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 34    DONE4      ‡              57959 MH D‡  ---      -/12M 
 35    DONE4      ‡              57959 QF D‡  ---      -/12M 
 36    DONE4      ‡              57959 QR D‡  ---      -/12M 
 37    DONE4      ‡              57959 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
 38    DONE4      ‡              57959 S7 D‡  ---      -/12M 
 39    DONE4      ‡              57959 UL D    ---      -/12M 
 40    DONE5      ‡              66185 AA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 41    DONE5      ‡              66185 AY D‡  ---      -/12M ‡
MD«                                                           
 42    DONE5      ‡              66185 BA D‡  ---      -/12M ‡
 43    DONE5      ‡              66185 CX D‡  ---      -/‡‡ 
 44    DONE5      ‡              66185 IB D‡  ---      -/12M 
 45    DONE5      ‡              66185 JL D‡  ---      -/12M 
 46    DONE5      ‡              66185 LA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 47    DONE5      ‡              66185 MH D‡  ---      -/12M 
 48    DONE5      ‡              66185 QF D‡  ---      -/12M 
 49    DONE5      ‡              66185 QR D‡  ---      -/12M 
 50    DONE5      ‡              66185 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
 51    DONE5      ‡              66185 S7 D‡  ---      -/12M 
 52    DONE5      ‡              66185 UL D    ---      -/12M 
 53    DONE6      ‡              74667 AA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 54    DONE6      ‡              74667 AY D‡  ---      -/12M 
 55    DONE6      ‡              74667 BA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 56    DONE6      ‡              74667 CX D‡  ---      -/‡‡ 
 57    DONE6      ‡              74667 IB D‡  ---      -/12M 
 58    DONE6      ‡              74667 JL D‡  ---      -/12M 
 59    DONE6      ‡              74667 LA D‡  ---      -/12M 
 60    DONE6      ‡              74667 MH D‡  ---      -/12M 
 61    DONE6      ‡              74667 QF D‡  ---      -/12M 
 62    DONE6      ‡              74667 QR D‡  ---      -/12M 
 63    DONE6      ‡              74667 RJ D    ---      -/12M 
 64    DONE6      ‡              74667 S7 D‡  ---      -/12M ‡
MD«                                                           
 65    DONE6      ‡              74667 UL D    ---      -/12M ‡
 66    AGLOB34    ‡            106047 AY D‡  ---      -/12M 
                                                               
ENTER RD LINE NUMBER *RTG TO VIEW ROUTING. EXAMPLE - RD4*RTG   
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tkelvin69 Apr 8, 2020 6:29 pm

I guess it's pretty close but not sure why it was converted to euro.

"Total price for all flights selected

Fare Component: 5,191.00 EUR
Taxes and Carrier Surcharges/Fees: 1,451.90 EUR Details Total: 6,642.90 EUR"

petez Apr 9, 2020 3:43 pm


Originally Posted by tkelvin69 (Post 32276086)
I just tried a DONE4 from the RTW site originating OSL and it prices in Euro. ???

OSL-MAD on IB for first flight quotes in EUR whereas OSL-LHR on BA quotes in NOK

henry999 Apr 10, 2020 3:13 am


Originally Posted by tkelvin69 (Post 32276086)
I just tried a DONE4 from the RTW site originating OSL and it prices in Euro. ???

FYI kelvin: the best start for a DONEx from OSL -- whether you want to go eastwards or westwards -- is on QR to DOH. But you can't book that on the RTW tool; you need to use a TA or call one of the airlines involved on your itinerary. (Anecdotally, many airlines will refuse to book it for you unless you have a transoceanic segment with them.)

anabolism Apr 29, 2020 12:40 pm

Historic RTW fares
 
Is there an archive, or does anyone have PDFs or screen prints, showing any of the super-cheap RTW fares? E.g., Sudan, Egypt, South Africa during it's cheapest?

anabolism Apr 29, 2020 12:53 pm


Originally Posted by ernestnywang (Post 32276716)
Fare is still in NOK in GDS.

Is there a way to see the native fare when doing a fare query in EF?

pandaperth Apr 29, 2020 12:57 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 32335089)
Is there a way to see the native fare when doing a fare query in EF?

Yes.
Strangely, you need to look at the routing rules for the fare to see the 'native' fare

ernestnywang Apr 29, 2020 1:27 pm


Originally Posted by anabolism (Post 32335089)
Is there a way to see the native fare when doing a fare query in EF?

I don't use EF, so I don't know. Sorry.

checkerboard Apr 29, 2020 2:18 pm

3 Attachment(s)
Here are some archives from March 2012, with rules and prices for all origination points, both OneWorld Explorer and Global Explorer fares.

And also, an even older file of OneWorld Explorer Fares from Jan 2005.

Is this what you had in mind?

anabolism Apr 29, 2020 2:30 pm


Originally Posted by pandaperth (Post 32335097)
Yes.
Strangely, you need to look at the routing rules for the fare to see the 'native' fare

Cool, thank you. I never would have thought to look there.


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