Mile Maximize and Minimize at the Same time, help needed
#1
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Mile Maximize and Minimize at the Same time, help needed
Hi!
I have not going on to Flyertalk for a while due to the need of settling down in
Cambridge (oh gee, many different between American and British!).
Anyway, My Mum finally agreed to go to the US for my graduation and I will do a Oneworld AWARD in F for her while I will do a OWE (DOWE ex-CAI since I already have a RT LHR-CAI from last MLOWE) for myself.
Here is her draft routing (aim= Min miles)
HKG-SFO/o-LAND-LAS-LAX/o-ORD/o-DTW/o-LGA/o-YYZ/o-LHR/o-HKG
(19551miles, 180K award)
Here is my draft routing (aim=Max miles)
CATCH: I need to stay with her between HKG-US-LHR.
CAI-LHR/x-HKG-NRT-HKG-PEK-HKG-SFO/LAS-LAX-ORD-DTW-LGA-YYZ-LHR/o-IST-LHR/x-CAI (16 seg/ 32868mi base)
1. I really want to put an AA's Transcon (since my mum's tkt will be in First) but cannot get it below 20000mi total, am I missed something?
2. I found that there is no way I can do a mileage run within Canada, am I right? (the only place I can leave my mum during the trip is in YYZ and I CANNOT re-enter US)
3. I want to put SWP in to rack up miles, here is my routing, can I do better?
CAI-LHR/x-mel-asp-drw-syd-HKG-NRT-HKG-PEK-HKG-SFO/LAS-LAX-ORD-DTW-LGA-YYZ-LHR/o-IST-LHR/x-CAI (20seg/45877mi)
4. Any other suggestion as long as not making my mum's trip exceed 20000 are very welcome!!
5. ORD-DTW is only 5hr drive/train, so if required I can take that out and do a LAND segment overthere to put some miles to good use to other legs.
Thanks!
EDITED to put stopover signs
[This message has been edited by HK-UMICH (edited 11-10-2003).]
I have not going on to Flyertalk for a while due to the need of settling down in
Cambridge (oh gee, many different between American and British!).
Anyway, My Mum finally agreed to go to the US for my graduation and I will do a Oneworld AWARD in F for her while I will do a OWE (DOWE ex-CAI since I already have a RT LHR-CAI from last MLOWE) for myself.
Here is her draft routing (aim= Min miles)
HKG-SFO/o-LAND-LAS-LAX/o-ORD/o-DTW/o-LGA/o-YYZ/o-LHR/o-HKG
(19551miles, 180K award)
Here is my draft routing (aim=Max miles)
CATCH: I need to stay with her between HKG-US-LHR.
CAI-LHR/x-HKG-NRT-HKG-PEK-HKG-SFO/LAS-LAX-ORD-DTW-LGA-YYZ-LHR/o-IST-LHR/x-CAI (16 seg/ 32868mi base)
1. I really want to put an AA's Transcon (since my mum's tkt will be in First) but cannot get it below 20000mi total, am I missed something?
2. I found that there is no way I can do a mileage run within Canada, am I right? (the only place I can leave my mum during the trip is in YYZ and I CANNOT re-enter US)
3. I want to put SWP in to rack up miles, here is my routing, can I do better?
CAI-LHR/x-mel-asp-drw-syd-HKG-NRT-HKG-PEK-HKG-SFO/LAS-LAX-ORD-DTW-LGA-YYZ-LHR/o-IST-LHR/x-CAI (20seg/45877mi)
4. Any other suggestion as long as not making my mum's trip exceed 20000 are very welcome!!
5. ORD-DTW is only 5hr drive/train, so if required I can take that out and do a LAND segment overthere to put some miles to good use to other legs.
Thanks!
EDITED to put stopover signs
[This message has been edited by HK-UMICH (edited 11-10-2003).]
#2

Join Date: Apr 2000
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Looks like you are using a OW award. The mileage calculations are not always the sum of the segments. In order to help, need to know what cities are stopovers and which are transits. I have experience with 4 OW awards where the mileages differ based upon if a segment was a transit or stopever.
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Basically all of them are stopovers. I put signs on my original post.
Thanks!
Also, just found out that MEL-PER is not limited as trancon in AUssie, so will this work?
LHR-MEL-PER-AliceSpring-Darwin-SYD-HKG
Seems more miles.
THanks!
Thanks!
Also, just found out that MEL-PER is not limited as trancon in AUssie, so will this work?
LHR-MEL-PER-AliceSpring-Darwin-SYD-HKG
Seems more miles.
THanks!
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I had some routes saved from Great Circle Mapper in my favorites which may give you more miles.
Yours: MEL-PER-ASP-DRW-SYD-HKG = 10257 miles.
MEL-PER-DRW-SYD-AKL-HKG = 12316 miles.
MEL-DRW-PER-BNE-AKL-HKG = 12948 miles.
Unless the rules have changed in the past 6 months or so, these should be allowed no problems. One thing to check though is the scheduling, and the last option leaves out SYD and I'm not sure where you wanted to stop.
cheers
goodo
[This message has been edited by goodo (edited 11-11-2003).]
Yours: MEL-PER-ASP-DRW-SYD-HKG = 10257 miles.
MEL-PER-DRW-SYD-AKL-HKG = 12316 miles.
MEL-DRW-PER-BNE-AKL-HKG = 12948 miles.
Unless the rules have changed in the past 6 months or so, these should be allowed no problems. One thing to check though is the scheduling, and the last option leaves out SYD and I'm not sure where you wanted to stop.
cheers
goodo
[This message has been edited by goodo (edited 11-11-2003).]
#5

Join Date: Apr 2000
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This might work for you, although you have to buy a separate ticket for the LAS trip and you will have an open jaw in the DTW/ORD area.
HKG-SFO-NYC-DTW open jaw YYZ-LHR-HKG.
Having lived in E. Lansing many years ago, DTW is about equal distance from Chicago and Toronto. Comes to about 19850 miles for the flight segments and gets your transcon on AA.
HKG-SFO-NYC-DTW open jaw YYZ-LHR-HKG.
Having lived in E. Lansing many years ago, DTW is about equal distance from Chicago and Toronto. Comes to about 19850 miles for the flight segments and gets your transcon on AA.
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Thanks!
So, is the mileage base on point to point (between stopovers) but not actually segments? That will help a lot especially now my schedule will make me to do the Midwest before west-coast.
Thanks!
So, is the mileage base on point to point (between stopovers) but not actually segments? That will help a lot especially now my schedule will make me to do the Midwest before west-coast.
Thanks!
<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by headinclouds:
Looks like you are using a OW award. The mileage calculations are not always the sum of the segments. In order to help, need to know what cities are stopovers and which are transits. I have experience with 4 OW awards where the mileages differ based upon if a segment was a transit or stopever.</font>
Looks like you are using a OW award. The mileage calculations are not always the sum of the segments. In order to help, need to know what cities are stopovers and which are transits. I have experience with 4 OW awards where the mileages differ based upon if a segment was a transit or stopever.</font>
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THANKS for the advice!
just to answer my own question. AA just point to point between stopovers for mileage award calculation.
ie. if I do LHR-YYZ/x-ORD/o. it will count LHR-ORD only. great if you want to fly a better service yet longer route.
just to answer my own question. AA just point to point between stopovers for mileage award calculation.
ie. if I do LHR-YYZ/x-ORD/o. it will count LHR-ORD only. great if you want to fly a better service yet longer route.

