I am planning a RTW trip including HAV. If I fly on IB to HAV, I appear to be stuck. The only way onwards appears on LA to CUN, but I think they have no traffic rights.

Any solution ?

Thanks

Zorro

You could either go to CUN or SCL. Both flights operate only on Sat and Sun. I don't see any other option.

Depends on where you intend to go after HAV. You are correct, IB and LA are the only oneworld carriers operating at HAV but there are plenty of options to continue onwards to many points in the Caribbean and the Americas. Some of the closer destinations with scheduled non-stop service include CUN (also MX) as you mentioned, Cayman (KX), Jamaica (JM), Aruba (VH) to name a few.

You may also want to check www.taca.com as well as www.copaair.com for additional regional flights should you decide to re-join your RTW in another country.

Doesn't BA still fly to HAV?

It is well established that the QF transcon in the US allows rtw pax to include it in their itins - is this not likely so on other no-local-traffic segments?

Thanks everybody.

It is quite difficult to get info on the web since most websites block Havana, must be a US thing. Air Jamaica refuses to price anything, claiming it is illegal in my country (Spain?). Lan Chile does not allow reservations (La Habana does not show up in the reservation page, only on the weekly timetable). Cayman Airways likewise does not allow to price it , only shows flight times.
I will just ask Iberia to issue it with the LA connection to CUN, and see what they say.

Be aware that AA will not recognise tickets that have ANY segments with HAV on them.

Really? Even if held by a citizen of the free world?

Is "free" a trade name or a product warranty?

Same restriction goes for Libya ("due to US Government Restrictions").

Way off topic, but what gives the US government the right to restrict what a foreign citizen does when they are outside the US? (Assuming no international laws are breached) Do they check your passport to see if you have been to Cuba or Libya (or N Korea, Syria, ...)? If it is OK to go there, why does it matter whether it is on the same ticket or not?

In any case, presumably Haliburton employees are exempt?

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But the US does have control over the domestic aviation industry and can impose a lot of different regulations on them. You are a non-US citizen and want to go to Havana, have at it. But just don't use a US domestic airline on the same ticket. The government couldn't care less who goes to Cuba who isn't a US citizen because the US government isn't responsible for them. But as long as it does maintain responsibility for domestic carriers, it can freely impose such restriction. I expect the policy would be the same if you tried to fly lax-pek-hkg-tpe-lax or lhr-tlv-cai-ruh-lhr. But I have no idea. I am so brainwashed by Big Macs, SUVs, large hats, and Starbucks that I have no clue what the more civilized Eastern world would do.

Unless you are planning to re-join your RTW on another island (buying the intervening sector on a non-OW carrier) it does seem a bit wasteful to include HAV on a RTW itinerary as it's classed as North America; without any way to get back to the US (other than as outlined above) you'd be wasting up to 5 segments.

Actually, PEK-HKG-TPE is a heavily trafficked route. A substantial % of the pax at HKG are connecting between TPE and Mainland China on the same ticket.

I agree with virtualtroy. Why not make GCM your first N.American entry point flying on BA via LHR, do a side trip with Cayman Airways to/from Cuba (relatively cheap and frequent) and then take in some other US/Caribbean destinations. You'll be using more of your allotted European AND North American segments, avoid Iberia across the pond and avoid any US/Cuba restrictions, ridiculous as these are.

Friendly caution: if you are flying in biz LHR-GCM, BA253 is currently operating with a 767 and does not offer the *new* club world product. If you are not flying in biz, then please disregard!