Help please on LA, AA, BA 1st class
#1
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Help please on LA, AA, BA 1st class
Hope someone out there can help this new FT'er on seating and other advice for a hard earned OW RTW in 1st class in may (QF OW award ticket). We are 2 adults plus 1 infant. Our itinerary is SYD-X/SCL (QF321/LA800), X/SCL-GIG (LA756), GIG-JFK (AA950), JFK-X/LHR (BA), X/LGW-RAK (BA6926,U), RAK-LHR (BA6919,U), LGR-SYD (BA9). Any advice on which are bassinet seats if any in 1st class on the above flights (QF could not help as none is on their metal), and any other tips on how we can make the most of this once in a lifetime experience would be very welcome. Thanks!
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SYD-SCL is operated by LA using 343 equipment and has a single row in F, so not much choice of seats there (LA has nice food and wine, but a crummy F cabin). All F cabins have at least one basinette position (must be required by regulations, as all airlines have it), it seems to be either the first or last row (usually first). You can get seating plans at the web sites of the various airlines that you are flying.
If you are trying to maximize the experience of flying in F your flight selection consists of some of the worst for F on the Oneworld network (in terms of comfort, quality of service). For example AA flights out of GIG are infamous for being sub-standard and having surly crews (some have even reported F meals being unavailable, and later seen to be eaten by the crew) ... very atypical of AA. JFK-LHR is very short flight (7 hours), which makes it much less comfortable than the longer west coast (SFO/LAX/SEA-LHR) flights. LHR-SYD is better done with a stopover in BKK or SIN (or even better to go LHR-HKG and then HKG-SYD on CX). While BA is superb LHR-SYD, the flight is just too long for pleasure, even in F. In terms of enjoyment of inflight and ground service, you would have done better to fly SYD-AKL-HKG-SFO-JFK-YVR-LHR-BKK-SYD or something like that (within the 35K mile limit for QF Oneworld awards). If you were constrained to go to SCL, GIG and JFK then your routing is mileage limited and you had little choice in airlines; but since you are worrying about getting the best seat, you should be aware that you could have had much better planes and much better airlines by using a different Oneworld routing (makes the seat selection rather insignificant by comparison). Be sure to make use of the Concorde Room at LHR, the nicest perk of your F award given your routing.
If you are trying to maximize the experience of flying in F your flight selection consists of some of the worst for F on the Oneworld network (in terms of comfort, quality of service). For example AA flights out of GIG are infamous for being sub-standard and having surly crews (some have even reported F meals being unavailable, and later seen to be eaten by the crew) ... very atypical of AA. JFK-LHR is very short flight (7 hours), which makes it much less comfortable than the longer west coast (SFO/LAX/SEA-LHR) flights. LHR-SYD is better done with a stopover in BKK or SIN (or even better to go LHR-HKG and then HKG-SYD on CX). While BA is superb LHR-SYD, the flight is just too long for pleasure, even in F. In terms of enjoyment of inflight and ground service, you would have done better to fly SYD-AKL-HKG-SFO-JFK-YVR-LHR-BKK-SYD or something like that (within the 35K mile limit for QF Oneworld awards). If you were constrained to go to SCL, GIG and JFK then your routing is mileage limited and you had little choice in airlines; but since you are worrying about getting the best seat, you should be aware that you could have had much better planes and much better airlines by using a different Oneworld routing (makes the seat selection rather insignificant by comparison). Be sure to make use of the Concorde Room at LHR, the nicest perk of your F award given your routing.
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Thanks for the tips number_6. Unfortunately we are constrained to GIG, JFK and RAK, also was told by QF we were limited to max 5 stopovers on OW award (which is a pity given the 35K mileage limit). JFK-LHR is actually on BA2 (only OK'd by QF after checking with a supervisor as my wife and I are both QF Plat - it seemed they would not have permitted this flight on the award otherwise). Thanks especially for the suggestion of CX via HK - will definitely explore that one.
Guy Betsy, in anser to your question there was no charge for the infant apart from the taxes (a little known perk of the QF FFP.)
Guy Betsy, in anser to your question there was no charge for the infant apart from the taxes (a little known perk of the QF FFP.)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">SYD-SCL is operated by LA using 343 equipment and has a single row in F, so not much choice of seats there (LA has nice food and wine, but a crummy F cabin).</font>
FWIW there are two bassinet positions - one on each side of the cabin. You have to ask the crew for a cot that inserts into the bulkhead.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by kangaroo route:
JFK-LHR is actually on BA2 (only OK'd by QF after checking with a supervisor as my wife and I are both QF Plat - it seemed they would not have permitted this flight on the award otherwise).</font>
JFK-LHR is actually on BA2 (only OK'd by QF after checking with a supervisor as my wife and I are both QF Plat - it seemed they would not have permitted this flight on the award otherwise).</font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by mgm:
Well number_6 I would have to disagree with you re: the LA cabin. I've just flown LA800 SYD-AKL in F and found it to be very comfortable. The seats are almost identical to AA's flat seats on the 767 but I thought just a tad flatter and with better padding. </font>
Well number_6 I would have to disagree with you re: the LA cabin. I've just flown LA800 SYD-AKL in F and found it to be very comfortable. The seats are almost identical to AA's flat seats on the 767 but I thought just a tad flatter and with better padding. </font>
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by number_6:
But routing SYD-LAX-GIG instead of SYD-SCL-GIG takes this ticket to 35.4K miles.</font>
But routing SYD-LAX-GIG instead of SYD-SCL-GIG takes this ticket to 35.4K miles.</font>
Also can you pay for just the extra 400 miles or is there another alternative ?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by DP-UK:
Is that with or without your recommended HKG routing to SYD ?
Also can you pay for just the extra 400 miles or is there another alternative ?</font>
Is that with or without your recommended HKG routing to SYD ?
Also can you pay for just the extra 400 miles or is there another alternative ?</font>


