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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 4:31 am
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Bit of a challenge for you FT'ers: Any suggestions for optimum routing to maximise mileage for a 3 continents OWE ex Bombay (NB must include SYD and LHR on this itinerary)
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 4:35 am
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You can't do a 3 continents OWE including Australia - it has to be at least 4: Europe, Australia, Asia, N America.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 4:53 am
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OK, so let's try again... based on a 4-continent OWE.
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 8:23 am
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OK I'll throw in a starting shot for people to check/improve on:

BOM-HKG-DPS-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-JFK-DFW-ANC-DFW-SJU-LIH//HNL-AKL-SYD-PER-DRW-SYD-HKG-BOM

for 65045 miles.

[This message has been edited by christep (edited 12-01-2002).]
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 10:18 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by christep:
OK I'll throw in a starting shot for people to check/improve on:

BOM-HKG-DPS-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-JFK-DFW-ANC-DFW-SJU-LIH//HNL-AKL-SYD-PER-DRW-SYD-HKG-BOM

for 65045 miles.

[This message has been edited by christep (edited 12-01-2002).]
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Do you mean SJC instead of SJU?
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 10:27 am
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Thanks for the suggestions. Just curious, is it really possible to pass through LHR that many times? Are stopovers permissible on all of those?
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 3:51 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by virtualtroy:
Thanks for the suggestions. Just curious, is it really possible to pass through LHR that many times? Are stopovers permissible on all of those?</font>
You can stop in LHR (and most other places) as many times as you desire. The only restriction on stopovers is two in the continent of origin - Asia.

SJU-LIH is a valid single plane route for AA285 although it makes stops in MIA and LAX on the way.

christep: Nice routing!
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Old Dec 1, 2002 | 8:53 pm
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LHR-LAX-sxm-jfk-DFW-ANC-DFW-jfk-SYD

what about this for N.A.?
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 1:52 am
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Thanks christep & ExMo. I took a look at the fare rules for OWE, as published by BA, and it states that "not more than 2 segments may be between the UK and Algeria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Georgia, Greece, Israel, Macedonia, Malta, Morocco, Funchal, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Tunisia, Ukraine, Yugoslavia and the Middle East". So am I correct in understanding that IST is considered to be part of Europe, rather than the middle east?

And is there an exception to DXB if it is used as a point of transit?
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 2:43 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by virtualtroy:
Thanks christep & ExMo. I took a look at the fare rules for OWE, as published by BA, and it states that "not more than 2 segments may be between the UK and Algeria, Armenia, Azerbaijan, Bulgaria, Cyprus, Georgia, Greece, Israel, Macedonia, Malta, Morocco, Funchal, Portugal, Romania, Russia, Tunisia, Ukraine, Yugoslavia and the Middle East". So am I correct in understanding that IST is considered to be part of Europe, rather than the middle east?

And is there an exception to DXB if it is used as a point of transit?
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yes.

no.

IST + DXB is the theoretical maximum fpr Euro-segments under the current ruote map and OWE rule
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 6:45 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by christep:
BOM-HKG-DPS-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-JFK-DFW-ANC-DFW-SJU-LIH//HNL-AKL-SYD-PER-DRW-SYD-HKG-BOM
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HNL-AKL is not possible in Explorer fare AFAIK.

[This message has been edited by mwielsch (edited 12-02-2002).]
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 8:12 am
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Sorry - that was my mistake doing it off the top of my head. For some reason I was thinking the QF SYD-HNL went via AKL.

Pegasus' suggestion comes out with slightly more miles in NA, so our combined best effort at the moment is:

BOM-HKG-DPS-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-SXM-JFK-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-SYD-PER-DRW-MEL-AKL-HKG-BOM

for 68031 miles

(I've fine-tuned the Aus/NZ part a bit too)

[This message has been edited by christep (edited 12-02-2002).]
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 9:16 am
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Isn't HKG-CMB longer than HKG-DPS?
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 4:12 pm
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ANC service is seasonal on AA (starts June 1 for DFW-ANC and STL-ANC, no schedule yet for ORD-ANC).
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Old Dec 2, 2002 | 5:43 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by Chiangi:
Isn't HKG-CMB longer than HKG-DPS?</font>
Yes - good point. HKG-KHI is even better.

So:

BOM-HKG-KHI-HKG-LHR-DXB-LHR-IST-LHR-LAX-SXM-JFK-DFW-ANC-DFW-JFK-SYD-PER-DRW-MEL-AKL-HKG-BOM

for 69670 miles.

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