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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 9:08 am
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End of the Canada Exception :-(

The following notice has just been published to cxagents.com. The Canada exception is gone - now you have to ticket in the country of origin if you want the lower price.

"ONEWORLD Fares Local Fare Check Revise

PLEASE BE ADVISED THAT ONEWORLD FARES LOCAL FARE CHECK EXCEPTION FOR CANADA IS DELETED. THE FOLLOWING FARE CHECK WILL APPLY TO SALE WORLDWIDE WITHOUT ANY EXCEPTION WITH IMMEDIATE EFFECT.
TRAVEL ORIGINATES IN A COUNTRY FOR WHICH A SPECIFIED LOCAL CURRENCY FARE IS PUBLISHED AND THE TICKET IS SOLD IN ANOTHER COUNTRY THE FARE WILL BE THAT PUBLISHED FOR THE COUNTRY OF ORIGIN CONVERTED TO THE CURRENCY OF THE COUNTRY OF SALE AT THE BANK SELLING RATE. THE RESULTANT FARE MUST NOT BE LOWER THAN THAT FROM THE COUNTRY OF SALE.

EXCEPTION - WHEN THERE IS NO SIMILAR FARE EX COUNTRY OF SALE FOR COMPARISON CONVERT THE ORIGIN FARE INTO CURRENCY OF PAYMENT BY BSR.

ONEWORLD EXPLORER FARE, ONEWORLD CIRCLE TRIP EXPLORER FARE, ONEWORLD CIRCLE PACIFIC EXPLORER FARE AND GLOBAL EXPLORER FARE CODNITIONS WILL BE REVISED. SYSTEM WILL BE UPDATED. THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION."

Sorry for the shouting - it's a direct cut and paste.

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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 9:59 am
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Well, as usual, the FTers' posts have been well read, documented and actioned upon by the airlines' themselves. So do remember what you post here!
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Does anyone know of travel agents who personally deliver airline tickets to their clients by meeting them at the airport? or delivering them to the hotel concierge desk?
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 8:22 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by daniellam:
Does anyone know of travel agents who personally deliver airline tickets to their clients by meeting them at the airport? or delivering them to the hotel concierge desk?</font>
Yes of course. A number of the bigger travel agents (such as Amex or Carlson Wagonlit) have ticketing desks at many airports. But most TAs will arrange delivery if you pay for the service.
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 11:43 pm
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is this a CX instruction to its agents?
or a change to the fare rule?

perhaps it still works with AA RTW desk fro canadian address? (wishfully)
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 11:43 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by christep:
A number of the bigger travel agents (such as Amex or Carlson Wagonlit) have ticketing desks at many airports.</font>
Ah, great idea!! A number of airport website also list these on-premise agents, so I assume that a phone call and a faxed credit card authorization is all you need to get them to pre-issue the ticket such that it's ready for your pick-up once you transit there...
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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 12:48 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by pegasus8228:
is this a CX instruction to its agents?
or a change to the fare rule?

perhaps it still works with AA RTW desk fro canadian address? (wishfully)
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Unfortunately it is an 'across-the-oneworld-board' rule. This change takes effect immediately thereby cancelling that 'except ticketed in Canada rule' which some of us have enjoyed in the past few months.

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Old Nov 26, 2002 | 12:50 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by daniellam:
Does anyone know of travel agents who personally deliver airline tickets to their clients by meeting them at the airport? or delivering them to the hotel concierge desk?</font>
These days, expect a fee for this service. IN the old days, I had to do the delivery of tickets myself on my own time to make sure my clients get their tickets!
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 1:58 am
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As usual, I'm too dense to understand the impact of this rule.

Since NA has a 7-day advance purchase reqmt, ticketing ex-Canada (if you didn't happen to be in-country 7 days before departure) has meant you needed to use an agent to ticket and mail you the tickets (or hand them to you when you arrived) for the past year or so. What's different about the new rule?
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 6:19 am
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by JohnAx:
As usual, I'm too dense to understand the impact of this rule.

Since NA has a 7-day advance purchase reqmt, ticketing ex-Canada (if you didn't happen to be in-country 7 days before departure) has meant you needed to use an agent to ticket and mail you the tickets (or hand them to you when you arrived) for the past year or so. What's different about the new rule?
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Because you were able to ticket "in Canada" (even if that just meant having the tickets mailed to you from a Canada travel agent) for travel starting somewhere else entirely, ex-AKL, ex-CPT, etc. In this way you could have the ticket in hand when arriving in one of those places to start your adventure.

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 8:58 am
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Oh.

Since I'm reluctant to violate the rule that says your rtw must end in the same country where it began (most cases), I wasn't about to fly half way around the world to NZ to start an rtw anyway.

In any case, afaik no other country has a 7-day ap requirement, so without too much fuss one should be able to arrive in-country with cc in hand, purchase tix, and be off.
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 12:27 pm
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What if you are based in Canada and happen to need to fly AA on the first over the water segment?

Because the AA RTW desk is based in the U.S., does this mean that it would be impossible to get the ex-Canada price even if I need my tickets to be sent to Canada? and pay with a Canadian credit card?
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 1:43 pm
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For you, yes, absolutely. And if the tariffs desk in Dublin happens to rate you, you are basically screwed and will be paying the Ireland rate. Sorry. Everyone else will probably get it rated ex-Canada, but you, no. I would take it personally, if I were you, and I would probably ask Guy Betsy whether he could take care of this for you.

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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 3:18 pm
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I just called the AA RTW desk and was told that as long as I provide a Canadian address and pay with a Canadian credit card, I will get the ex-Canada rate (if I start my trip in Canada) no matter where they "answer the phone" or "price the ticket".
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Old Nov 27, 2002 | 8:16 pm
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<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2">Originally posted by daniellam:
I just called the AA RTW desk and was told that as long as I provide a Canadian address and pay with a Canadian credit card, I will get the ex-Canada rate (if I start my trip in Canada) no matter where they "answer the phone" or "price the ticket".</font>

this has always been my understanding, if you start in canada and ticketed in canada,

similarly, if you can provide an address in NZ, you can also make the booking with AA RTW in DFW, and (they or you) call up the AA local office (in NA, if there is) to mail yout the ticket to your NZ address.
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